free healthcare and medical procedures for everyone including prisoners, covering all prescription drugs, free school lunches, decommodifying housing and abolishing landlords, severely limiting the police in favor of various civil servants for most cases, strict gun control and red flag laws, reducing cars in favor of alternative transportation methods and public transit, redesigning cities into 15 minute cities to facilitate that, and I can go on for a long time but you get the gist
the fetus is not a person. even if it were it doesn’t matter. what matters is that it lives in the mother’s body and the mother has to consent to what happens to her body. you can’t (or shouldn’t be able to) compel people to do anything with their body, including to keep others alive.
Well, one difference is that the prisoner is not housed inside an unwilling woman’s womb. That’s not where steaks and pork chops come from either. Hope that helps.
I have the same question for the opposite as well. Or for being for abortion and also vegan.
A (human) mother that carries a growing fetus is a living being. A pig, dog or a cow as well. They feel physically and emotionally and can be hurt.
A fetus is, up to a certain point, just a slab of meat.
As a vegan I don’t care about slabs of meat, I care about living beings and I think we shouldn’t hurt them.
Foetus can also feel pain and hurt, though
so you’re anti pain. that’s awesome, there’s a ton of socialist policies I’m sure you support wholeheartedly.
Like what?
free healthcare and medical procedures for everyone including prisoners, covering all prescription drugs, free school lunches, decommodifying housing and abolishing landlords, severely limiting the police in favor of various civil servants for most cases, strict gun control and red flag laws, reducing cars in favor of alternative transportation methods and public transit, redesigning cities into 15 minute cities to facilitate that, and I can go on for a long time but you get the gist
At which stage in development, since you seem to know this for a fact.
I’m a non vegan dude but this is gonna be my easiest argument… here goes:
consent.
The foetus can’t consent
the fetus is not a person. even if it were it doesn’t matter. what matters is that it lives in the mother’s body and the mother has to consent to what happens to her body. you can’t (or shouldn’t be able to) compel people to do anything with their body, including to keep others alive.
Well, one difference is that the prisoner is not housed inside an unwilling woman’s womb. That’s not where steaks and pork chops come from either. Hope that helps.