• @[email protected]
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    202 months ago

    Honey is a by-product of bees, the same way that all human made food is a by-products of humans.

    • @pyre
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      242 months ago

      so if I buy food from people I’m basically a cannibal

      • @[email protected]
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        102 months ago

        I think it’s more accurate to think of you trapping humans in your basement and leaving them a bag of groceries every once in a while. Then you go down there and take whatever they cooked with the produce. They get to eat what they make, you just get the leftovers. They also can’t leave.

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          Actually if bees don’t like the hive you put them in, they absolutely will leave. I haven’t had happen to me personally but I have heard of it happening to others; you put the package in and come back to find that 200$+ worth of bees just upped and flew away.

          • @Spacenut
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            122 months ago

            This isn’t true for the vast majority of commercial honey unfortunately. If you’re buying it from the supermarket, or any producer that operates at even medium scale, they’ll clip the wings of the queen so that the hive is unable to leave even if they want to.

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              And then they lose the hive anyway due to CCD or some nutrient deficiency that results from only consuming almond nectar.

          • @[email protected]
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            No under capitalism the owner gets everything what you make and they will reward you with just enough scraps to keep working.

            Joking aside, bees technically have the freedom to escape captivity and leave their hive. I think that is a spot on comparison to how work and living in society is often made up to be a voluntary choice and we’re free to go live elsewhere.

            • @AllOutOfBubbleGum
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              "Worker bees can leave

              Even drones can fly away

              The queen is their slave"

              ~ Chuck Palahniuk

        • @[email protected]
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          32 months ago

          Sure if the humans have no idea they are in captivity and their lives are basically the same they would have been otherwise.

        • @Valmond
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          12 months ago

          Ah, capitalism.

        • @meliaesc
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          02 months ago

          Seems more akin to letting them milk themselves and collecting it from the fridge.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 months ago

            I don’t think so. Bees make honey for food. Humans drink their mother’s milk as babies, sure, but they don’t keep producing milk and storing it as food as a regular practice.

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      12 months ago

      Maybe if we went around collecting raw food and storing it inside our bodies, and then converted it into a nearly pure sugar.