• Hannes
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    -132 months ago

    I never said he was a good guy? I just said that not everything he did was bad.

    Are you disagreeing that his vision about the Autobahn or the founding of Volkswagen or the construction of things like the Olympiastadion are not good things despite the huge amount of horrible shit he did?
    Are you not acknowledging that he was more charismatic in his speeches than many other people despite all the hateful things he fueled using that skill?

    How is it so hard to see someone that’s clearly an enemy of everything we stand for today as a human and not as some supernatural evil? I think doing this is just helping the populists divide their countries even faster. There needs to be an understanding of why people follow those kind of guys and which things they are doing are not inherently evil to see why people were drawn to those characters.

    I’m not saying you should compromise with Nazis. I’m in fact politically active here in Germany to oppose the CDU making deals with the AfD on a local level. I’m only saying that even the Nazis didn’t do things because they wanted to be evil - they did it because they had a different (horrible) vision of the world. I think it’s important to not see anyone as 100% evil as that is just a very cheap way to not have to think about uncomfortable things

    • @24_at_the_withers
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      12 months ago

      Volkswagen used forced labor from concentration camps. I don’t think there’s any way to argue that a company built upon human suffering isn’t evil - or at least wasn’t at the time.

      The Autobahn was built using forced labor of re-education camps, prisoners of war, prison inmates, and Jews from concentration camps. If the Wright Brothers made the first powered flight in an aircraft built of human flesh from murdered victims, nobody sane would be celebrating their achievement.

      There is NOTHING honorable about causing harm to others so you can have more for yourself.