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    22 hours ago

    The thing is, truth and facts exist whether we believe them or not. The sun is a star and we rotate around it on a sphere.Yet there are people who still believe in a pre-Copernican, geocentric universe.

    Facts don’t matter when someone tells you something in line with what you want to hear or believe. Trump does that for his base. Nothing we say about it will change or undo the damage done.

    Best we can hope for is superior numbers to the degree that the inevitable court battle after the election cannot refute.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      224 hours ago

      In the short term, between now and the election, sure. Studies have shown people reject new information that contradicts an established belief. In the long term, it’s possible to get people out of cults and fascist movements. But that takes a level of time and effort we no longer have.

      Best we can hope for is superior numbers to the degree that the inevitable court battle after the election cannot refute.

      Yes, this is the solution. We outnumber the fascists. We need to show it at the polls and vote for the Harris-Walz ticket.

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        122 hours ago

        You either missed my point or are ignoring it. Either way, I hope you are correct.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          322 hours ago

          I mean, I addressed the second and third sections. The statements in the first section are tautological truisms. So I’m not sure what you mean.

          I largely agree with your points, just not that there is no hope for these people on a long enough timescale. This was both preventable and is fixable. We just have to give ourselves the time to fix it.

          I’m choosing to believe in people. It’s the most useful outlook I can have.