• @aidan
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    027 days ago

    Nothing was or to my knowledge has yet been indicated that it is only sanctioned companies, or if it is to comply with the sanctioning of all of Russia, other than one post on Mastadon

    • @TheGrandNagus
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      126 days ago

      Nothing has indicated that this is the case, other than the thing saying that this is the case.

      • @aidan
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        026 days ago

        Yes, something that wasn’t published to my knowledge until after a xenophobic rant

        • @TheGrandNagus
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          26 days ago

          It was known beforehand.

          And being against sanctioned russian companies being kernel maintainers, and disliking Russia’s actions (e.g. invasion, mass rape, genocide) isn’t xenophobic.

          Absolutely based from Torvalds. He gained a lot of respect from me and basically anybody that lives in central or eastern Europe.

          • @aidan
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            125 days ago

            It was known beforehand.

            Source?

            I live in Poland…

            Also, disliking the Russian state is different from disliking Russian people

            • @TheGrandNagus
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              People were saying it in the comments before the recent press release even came out. Do you think they knew it by magic?

              Good thing Linus was never talking about Russian people in general then, isn’t it?

              Completely reasonable for Linus not to like such an aggressive, genocidal shithole of a country. And it’s also fair to not give sanctioned Russian companies a deep level of access to his kernel.

              And btw, for being Polish it seems weird that you constantly post in US politics communities and never in any polish ones.

              • @aidan
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                124 days ago

                People were saying it in the comments before the recent press release even came out. Do you think they knew it by magic?

                They saw people were banned to comply with the law and it was a list of just Russians. Huawei is a sanctioned company and none of their employees were banned.

                Good thing Linus was never talking about Russian people in general then, isn’t it?

                But he was talking about the specific people implying that they were supporting the Russian aggression, which to my knowledge they weren’t. The removal also said it can be reversed with “sufficient documentation” without any clarification on what that is. There were and are many opportunities to say “these people were removed because they worked for sanctioned companies” but that was not said.

                And btw, for being Polish it seems weird that you constantly post in US politics communities and never in any polish ones.

                To my knowledge there are no Polish communities on here. I do comment and post on r/Poland on Reddit.

                • @TheGrandNagus
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                  123 days ago

                  Nobody got banned. They were removed from their positions as maintainers, because they work for a sanctioned company.

                  Please stop being purposely misleading.

                  They can still contribute to their heart’s content. They just can’t submit patches with no oversight, because they are close to the Russian government, who, I don’t know if you’ve realised, has invaded their neighbour and is currently committing genocide.

                  • @aidan
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                    123 days ago

                    Nobody got banned

                    Yep I knew that, no clue why I wrote that, sometimes I should probably proofread.

                    They were removed from their positions as maintainers, because they work for a sanctioned company.

                    But again, employees of non-Russian sanctioned companies were not removed.

                    Please stop being purposely misleading.

                    I am not, it was genuine slip of the finger? Idk, but if you check my profile there are plenty of examples where I omitted or said the wrong word, I really should proof read more rather- though that would ruin the fun. Stop assuming malice when someone has a different opinion from you and makes a mistake.

                    They just can’t submit patches with no oversight

                    There is still oversight, plenty of people read every merged commit.

                    because they are close to the Russian government

                    I’ve never seen anything to support this.

                    has invaded their neighbour and is currently committing genocide.

                    Invaded yes, genocide I have no clue what really is happening in Ukraine, but I would say it doesn’t look like a genocide. War is bad, killing is bad, but genocide is a specific thing, and this feels a lot like just adding a word to make it sound more bad. The invasion is bad enough.