• OBJECTION!
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    Yes, I’m aware that those are the only realistic winners of this election. I’m not aware of anything I might have said that would imply I think otherwise.

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      I love that your entire reasoning is “I know I’m wrong, and i know everyone I’ve ever talked to has told me I’m wrong… but I’m still going to do it anyways”.

      Smart choice, kid.

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      Then I have to think you believe Trump and Harris would be equally bad and therefore don’t feel compelled to vote strategically against either.

      Do I have that right?

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        No. They are not equally bad, but neither is an acceptable choice.

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          So I’ll use a random what-if/analogy since you seem to love them SO much!

          Imagine a magic elf came down from magic elf land, and made you chose between having an acute health condition and cancer. Do you mean to say that you are totally fine with allowing other people to decide for you- full-well knowing that half of the people deciding are huge fans of cancer and not at all fans of you?

          Because this is your logic mirrored right back back at you.

          Or would you actually give a shit in this case because it will be YOU that’s affected by the outcome.

          Either way-

          You’re getting one regardless. Not choosing doesn’t make the election not happen. But you know this. Don’t you?

        • capital
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          You’re pretty sanguine about getting the worse of the two. I find that strange.

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              This response says you subscribe to the ideology of worse-evilism for everybody else.

              As a member of everybody else, THAAAAAANKS.

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                Nope, not supporting the worse evil either.

                Lesser-evilism freqently produces worse results than more coherent strategies and ethical systems.

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                  Is this your first presidential election?
                  Have you voted in any other elections before?
                  Do you even know there are other elections?
                  Are you a brick wall, unable to process what other people are telling you?
                  Are you even American?
                  Do you understand that real life is not a fantasy?

                  Answer me these questions six, and a wish .ml shall gift.

            • capital
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              74 hours ago

              Explain the logic of “I’m good with the greater evil, actually”.

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                Sure. Ethically speaking, anyone who’s not an act utilitarian will accept the “greater evil” in some circumstances, and if you don’t, it leads to some absurd conclusions, like chopping up a healthy person to get organ transplants to save five. Another example would be, “If you don’t kill someone for me, I’ll kill two people.” I can’t prevent every bad thing from happening, but I can control my own actions and choose not to be a party to bad things.

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                  Got it. Voting, in your mind, is akin to two different examples of murder.

                  It sounds to me like you’d opt out of giving someone the Heimlich maneuver so as not to bruise their abdomen, letting them choke to death.

                  I can control my own actions and choose not to be a party to bad things

                  You can pretend to opt out but not voting or voting third is a choice not to help prevent the worse outcome. You’ve participated in bringing that to fruition.

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                    I thought you were asking for why one would be accept a greater evil, generally speaking, so I demonstrated why lesser evilism is not automatically the correct position.

                    You’ve participated in bringing that to fruition.

                    Nope, that is blatantly false. Not voting for either major candidate, so by definition I haven’t participated in getting either of them elected.