I’ll just add to this, 9mm, or any handgun really, is still very loud. The reason it doesn’t seem as loud is because when most people are shooting there are two main things happening.
They’re behind the barrel, normally this doesn’t matter much, but the sound is at least a little directional, so being in front of it is going to make it sound much louder because you’re hearing the initial explosion, not an echo.
Most people aren’t shooting it in their house, they’re at a gun range. The space in front of you at the range allows for the sound to travel and the pressure to spread through the room, slightly reducing the impact of the sound. Shoot one in a tiny room and it’s going to be much worse for you.
Again it’s still really loud, but the context of where the sound is being made does make a difference. Obviously larger rounds will be louder, but that doesn’t mean rounds like 9mm are safe for your ears at all.
I’ve shot a few thousand rounds. 9mm is very loud. Shoot it in a closed space just once without earpro and you will cause permanent damage to your hearing.
I don’t think a million round sample size would help you in judging this.
You realize it’s a function of distance and that function is logarithmic, right? A gunshot at one foot is a hundred times louder than it is at 20 feet. If you were exposed to a million gunshots of any caliber from a foot away, you would be profoundly deaf.
So why even mention your million rounds as a reply to “I just fired a gun right next to your head, neither of us was wearing ear protection and now we’re having a conversation at normal volume”? Talk about ignorant.
My point still stands. I’ve had 9mm from an m17 shot beside my head and had zero issues with my hearing afterwards.
Edit to reply to your ignorant use of the word ignorant:
I have personal and professional experience with many different things that shoot, so calling my response ignorant is just wrong. That’s like people saying “I literally just died” when what they really meant was “I’m a little embarassed”
Think it just varies by rounds/gun and surroundings. I’ve had 9mm’s be quite quiet, but I had a Walther PK380 that would make my ears ring in a field without protection. It’s a smaller round than a 9mm… So never understood why.
Believe it or not when I took my concealed weapons license class years ago it was in a small room indoors, at the end to ensure everyone has at least had fired a gun before, they handed us an old .22 handgun (maybe a browning? Long time ago) with a silencer on it. And 1 by 1 had us take shots at a small target with a sack of what I assume was dirt/corn/or such behind it.
So around 15 people in a 10 by 30 foot (3.3 by 10 meter) room where we shot at a target with the other 14 people standing behind us. No hearing protection was needed. It obviously is louder than the movies, but amazing to not have our ears ringing in a space so small.
The silencer on such a small handgun is awkward at best. Your natural instinct is to want to hold it up, as it weighs down the front of the gun drastically, but clearly you should/can not fire like that, as the gases will expell throughout the silencer resulting in injury more than likely. That was in Florida, the state which concealed weapons permit is accepted in the most U.S. states during travel. The class, took no more than a couple hours during a single night.
Congratulations on your hearing damage making things seem quiet? I’ve had somewhat fewer rounds, maybe 100k-200k, and 9mm is still deafeningly loud. I’m betting it’s because I wore hearing protection for most of it…
For god’s sakes, a simple internet search immediately shows the lack of evidence for 9mm being quiet.
Yeah, good point, gun safety is very Important. Guns aren’t toys.
You are correct, and that guy doesn’t know he’s deaf I guess. All pistols are loud enough to hurt your ears if your ears are normal. Even a .22LR pistol with a 6" target barrel is pretty loud to the naked ear.
I haven’t shot that much, but I’ve found pistols to be louder than smaller rifles - probably because the barrels are shorter and they’re a fair bit closer to your face.
I have the same experience, generally. It will definitely have a lot of room to wiggle around, depending on the particular gun’s characteristics, the bullet’s characteristics, and even the surrounding environment. If you read the wikipedia on it, you’ll even see a section complaining about how measured dB levels are nearly useless if the distance from the source isn’t measured. A lawn mower across the street isn’t such a big deal, but the one pushing it should have hearing protection.
Depends on the gun. 9mm would be a normal conversation, 50. cal by the being shot close to your head with no hearing protection hurts
I’ll just add to this, 9mm, or any handgun really, is still very loud. The reason it doesn’t seem as loud is because when most people are shooting there are two main things happening.
Again it’s still really loud, but the context of where the sound is being made does make a difference. Obviously larger rounds will be louder, but that doesn’t mean rounds like 9mm are safe for your ears at all.
Right after it being fired right next to your head? With no ear protection?
Permanent hearing loss aside, I’d probably have a few very harsh words for the idiot firing irresponsibly rather than a “normal conversation” 🙄
I’ve shot and been around the shooting of easily of 1 million rounds. 9mm isn’t loud, especially in comparison.
Yeah, good point, gun safety is very Important. Guns aren’t toys.
I’ve shot a few thousand rounds. 9mm is very loud. Shoot it in a closed space just once without earpro and you will cause permanent damage to your hearing.
I don’t think a million round sample size would help you in judging this.
LOL they were probably shouting at the screen while typing.
I’ve never heard any weapon fire 9mm and think “welp time to get my ears checked”
You realize it’s a function of distance and that function is logarithmic, right? A gunshot at one foot is a hundred times louder than it is at 20 feet. If you were exposed to a million gunshots of any caliber from a foot away, you would be profoundly deaf.
This is the most blantantly ignorant comment I’ve read on Lemmy. No one would assume that every single shot was shot close to my head.
That being said, yes, most living adults understand how sound works.
So why even mention your million rounds as a reply to “I just fired a gun right next to your head, neither of us was wearing ear protection and now we’re having a conversation at normal volume”? Talk about ignorant.
My point still stands. I’ve had 9mm from an m17 shot beside my head and had zero issues with my hearing afterwards.
Edit to reply to your ignorant use of the word ignorant:
I have personal and professional experience with many different things that shoot, so calling my response ignorant is just wrong. That’s like people saying “I literally just died” when what they really meant was “I’m a little embarassed”
Think it just varies by rounds/gun and surroundings. I’ve had 9mm’s be quite quiet, but I had a Walther PK380 that would make my ears ring in a field without protection. It’s a smaller round than a 9mm… So never understood why.
Maybe it has something to do with the directional output. I’m not at all versed on the subject.
Believe it or not when I took my concealed weapons license class years ago it was in a small room indoors, at the end to ensure everyone has at least had fired a gun before, they handed us an old .22 handgun (maybe a browning? Long time ago) with a silencer on it. And 1 by 1 had us take shots at a small target with a sack of what I assume was dirt/corn/or such behind it.
So around 15 people in a 10 by 30 foot (3.3 by 10 meter) room where we shot at a target with the other 14 people standing behind us. No hearing protection was needed. It obviously is louder than the movies, but amazing to not have our ears ringing in a space so small.
The silencer on such a small handgun is awkward at best. Your natural instinct is to want to hold it up, as it weighs down the front of the gun drastically, but clearly you should/can not fire like that, as the gases will expell throughout the silencer resulting in injury more than likely. That was in Florida, the state which concealed weapons permit is accepted in the most U.S. states during travel. The class, took no more than a couple hours during a single night.
Congratulations on your hearing damage making things seem quiet? I’ve had somewhat fewer rounds, maybe 100k-200k, and 9mm is still deafeningly loud. I’m betting it’s because I wore hearing protection for most of it…
For god’s sakes, a simple internet search immediately shows the lack of evidence for 9mm being quiet.
You are correct, and that guy doesn’t know he’s deaf I guess. All pistols are loud enough to hurt your ears if your ears are normal. Even a .22LR pistol with a 6" target barrel is pretty loud to the naked ear.
I haven’t shot that much, but I’ve found pistols to be louder than smaller rifles - probably because the barrels are shorter and they’re a fair bit closer to your face.
I have the same experience, generally. It will definitely have a lot of room to wiggle around, depending on the particular gun’s characteristics, the bullet’s characteristics, and even the surrounding environment. If you read the wikipedia on it, you’ll even see a section complaining about how measured dB levels are nearly useless if the distance from the source isn’t measured. A lawn mower across the street isn’t such a big deal, but the one pushing it should have hearing protection.