1. Mod of [email protected] posts a great Greta Thunberg quote, but then tries to use it to justify not voting in the upcoming US election
  2. Multiple people point out that’s very clearly not what she meant
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Using your mod powers to decide who is allowed and not allowed to speak is not very anarchist of you, @[email protected]

  • Mambabasa
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    -320 days ago

    Anarchism doesn’t mean free speech for anti-anarchists. Simple as. We welcome debate and dissent in our ranks, but don’t lay down welcome mats for those who hate us and our program. Please tell me why you should feel entitled to soapbox in our space when literally almost every other Lemmy is devoted to the Harris cause? Soapbox somewhere else. I was just taking out the trash.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      620 days ago

      Power tripping modsism doesn’t mean free speech for power tripping mods. We welcome debate and dissent in our ranks, but don’t lay down welcome mats for those- You know what? My heart’s just not in it. I just don’t care.

      I never defended Kamala Harris, I just agreed with Greta Thunberg that Trump is so bad that it’s an emergency. You were the one that brought the election and talking about the Democrats into an anarchist space, and then threw a fit when someone continued the conversation you started about the election, and quoted your Greta Thunberg post back at you. I clearly don’t hate anarchists, I read some of them after talking to people in this non-censored thread, and I had some thoughts but overall I think it’s gold. A good way of enabling an anarchist lifestyle sounds really good to me.

      You are the one soapboxing in the anarchist space about the election. You are the one who’s been talking nonstop about Kamala Harris and the election for highly suspicious reasons.

      I think I’ve said as much on this now as I want to say. I think all you’ve done by coming and doubling down so hard is to convince people a little more firmly of what the consensus already was before you stopped by.

      • Mambabasa
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        -320 days ago

        Why are you so entitled to soapbox your anti-anarchism, liberalism, electoralism, and ideological cover for genocide in our space when you can shit the floor in literally almost every other Lemmy? Go to those other communities; they’ll welcome you. No, you’re not entitled to it. Go pound sand.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          920 days ago

          Hey, what punishment do you think I should have received instead of the slap on the wrist?

          Did you ask Kropotkin about it? I feel like he might have had some kind of punishment schedule laid out for what to do when people do things that might harm the movement, but you seem better-educated on all this than I am, so you would know better. Tell me.

      • @toasteecup
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        -220 days ago

        Oh cute, the Judas of anarchists wants to downvote because I’m calling them out.

        Remember friends and fellow lone wolf anarchists, this person is an example of why working together can get you sold out and on death row. The summer anarchist will sell you out to save their own skin.

        • db0M
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          719 days ago

          There’s no such thing as “lone wolf anarchists” anymore than there’s “anarcho”-capitalists. Anarchism is at it’s core a socialist movement. And there’s no “social” without other humans.

          • @toasteecup
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            119 days ago

            Guess I’m living proof otherwise then but I’m glad we can have these disagreements

      • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24
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        -420 days ago

        they are still free to speak, but that community is no longer going to give them a platform

      • Mambabasa
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        -520 days ago

        Do you have any experience organizing? Because in my experience, booting out liberals from shitting in our physical spaces is a justified thing to do. Why not digital? Are they silenced? They still have literally almost every other Lemmy to spout their electoralist evilism. They are not censored or silenced from the public, just removed from anarchist spaces.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          620 days ago

          In my experience, organizing anything along with the type of person who starts accusing people of “evilism” and insists on removing them from the group, when they say something like “your plan might kill a lot of people, so I want to do this other plan instead,” is a ballache and a half and often doesn’t succeed.

          I’m still waiting to hear what punishment you think I should have received instead of the slap on the wrist. I tried to quit the conversation, but you got me hooked back in again.

          • Mambabasa
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            -220 days ago

            What’s my plan? To remind people what they’re voting for? To remind people voting isn’t enough? That plan? You’re the one who has been belittling me in the past several days over basic principled positions on opposition to genocide. You willfully and freely provide ideological cover for Harris. You simply are not entitled to do that in anarchist spaces. That’s literally all there is.

            • @[email protected]OP
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              620 days ago

              Your plan is to encourage people not to vote for Democrats. If Trump gets elected, that plan will kill a whole lot of people. You posted a quote by Greta Thunberg that touched on it briefly, you might remember.

              You also had something to say about Jill Stein, a long long time ago, which isn’t real compatible with your current “electoralism is banworthy” stance. You also seem to care a ton about the election and about Kamala Harris, for a anti-electoralist who’s not from the US. Mostly I think you are trying to elect Trump, and the whole thing about anarchism is a facade. That’s why I am not nice to you.

              • Mambabasa
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                -420 days ago

                I don’t even know who Jill Stein is, asshole. Now you’re just making shit up.

                And if that’s my plan, then obviously it’s a pointless and doomed endeavor. I know people won’t listen to me. I know I can’t influence the American election as a non-American in not-America. Yet anarchists must say what only anarchists can say. And that is why I speak out against genocide.

                • @[email protected]OP
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                  1020 days ago

                  You posted this two days ago:

                  https://slrpnk.net/post/14792128

                  So, you didn’t understand the context of the joke at all, but just posted it anyway because it had the words “Harris” and “Cheney” in it? Or what happened that made you decide to post that, not knowing who Jill Stein is?

                  • Mambabasa
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                    -220 days ago

                    Y’all are barking up the wrong tree. Might I remind you this is the most winnable election in history. Harris sabotaged her own campaign because of her own bloodlust. She promised “the most lethal military.” Go get mad at her if you need someone to get mad at. I frankly don’t care for these third party losers, half of them tankies, the other half TERFs. They won’t make Harris lose. Harris herself digs her own grave and yours. She could win this by just opposing Israel, but she won’t, and you’re angry at me? Yet you’re angry at people with principles? I will not blame people for not voting for more Palestinian death.

        • @toasteecup
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          520 days ago

          Knowing people like you exist? No.

          I didn’t want to end up in jail or worse because things started turning out a little bad.

          Also irony.

          “I’m an anarchist, but I ‘remove not silence’ the voices of those I don’t like”

          • Mambabasa
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            -620 days ago

            So you have no experience with dealing with real shit then. Stay in your little bubble then.

            • @toasteecup
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              719 days ago

              “I have more experience than you so I’m right and you’re wrong. I will now dismissed you and your inconvenient opinion.”

          • Mambabasa
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            -620 days ago

            Also, what? Aren’t you an anarchist who’s opposed to the tanks? Anarchists won’t tolerant tankies right? Why should we tolerant liberal tanks, the liberal equivalent of tankies? And as god is my witness, they do indeed have tanks.

            • @toasteecup
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              719 days ago

              Lol.

              Quit assuming shit. You’re already losing, take the L