• @RalphFurley
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    We’re not in a vacuum. Two things can be true. She can honestly be pro Israel but also hope the turds that are the Likud Party lose power, work to end the genocide, and find a two-state solution - that is, if Hamas and Bibi will allow it, which they won’t.

    This binary all-or-nothing, zero sum bs is just toxic and ignorant.

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      Yeah it’s clear she wants a two state solution.

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
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      She can honestly be pro Israel but also hope the turds that are the Likud Party lose

      I’m not invested in the Likud Party losing if the war continues to expand and drag on.

      The issue isn’t with her “pro-Israel” policy, it’s with her “pro-Genocide” policy. That’s what’s driving the protests.

      • @RalphFurley
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        13 months ago

        And that’s the rub. Is she really ‘pro genocide’? That is the question

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          “Hey, i have murdered some 40.000 people, most women and children. Can you send me more weapons?”

          “Well sure, here ya go. Need any more troops deployed with it, so no one in the region can try to stop you?”

          More clear of an endorsement isn’t possible aside from going there personally to murder the women and children herself.

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            But the question remains, will things be better, worse, or the same under Trump?

            Like it or not, at this stage of the game there are effectively two candidates. To paraphrase South Park, you can vote for the douche bag or the turd sandwich. Neither is a very good option but one is certainly worse than the other if you’re paying any attention at all. Abstaining from voting for Harris in a swing state is tantamount to a half vote for Trump.

            So sure, continue letting everyone know what the current administration is doing wrong. I’m all for valid criticism of our government. Post facts, link sources, and post ways that people can voice their displeasure to their elected officials.

            Trying to sway votes away from Harris is not the answer. Because again, like it or not, the shitty choice that we’ve been handed in this scenario is bad or worse. Please stop advocating for worse.

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                13 months ago

                I don’t even know how to respond to this. It’s filled with so much hyperbole that there’s nothing factual to refute or discuss. All I can say is that I vehemently disagree with your opinions on the matter.

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        it’s with her “pro-Genocide” policy

        What pro-genocide policy? Name one Kamala Harris, pro-genocide policy.

        Because it seems to me that she just stated that her goal is to end the genocide. Seems like a pretty counterintuitive way to be “pro-genocide”…

        And if you knew anything about politics in Israel, then you would 100% be invested in the Likud Party losing.

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          Sending weapons to the army committing the genocide is a very clear endorsement of it. Judge politicians by their actions, not by their promises.

          And not only was sending those weapons a clear endorsement of the genocide, it is illegal by US law. The whole administration and majority of congress should be under investigation and in jail.

          • @[email protected]
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            And who is the current President of the United States?

            Is it Kamala Harris? No?

            So my question stands: one “pro-genocide policy”

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              Who is current vice-president?

              Her entire campaign was based on the fact that she is the continuation of Biden. Having proper primaries after Biden dropped out was argued against, saying she is already on the ticket. Her team is largely Bidens team. Distancing her from the administration she currently serves in and saying she is the continuation of that doesn’t work.

              Frankly if she was opposed to genocide the only decent thing would have been to resign from her position in the current administration. You cannot be against genocide while serving a genocidal president.