Because you now did it to yourself.

  • @Cornelius_Wangenheim
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    315 days ago

    No, we didn’t. They had 48 seats, which is not enough to accomplish anything.

    • @Ensign_Crab
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      -115 days ago

      You’re ignoring that 2 independents caucus with Democrats. It’s dishonest to exclude them. But you’re splitting hairs because it’s convenient for your excuses.

      • @TheFonz
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        115 days ago

        Two independents from conservative states that barely align with democrats. Why do you handwave this away so easily???

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          315 days ago

          One of the independents is Bernie Sanders.

          Manchin and Sinema were both capital-D Democrats at the time they did everything you wanted.

          • @TheFonz
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            114 days ago

            They did NOT do everything. It fact we barely got them to do much. All this information is publicly available. Their voting records are available to see. None of this is hidden. They are the primary reason most of the bills that DID pass were almost completely neutered because they were negotiated down or stalled. This also happened only a few years ago. We are not talking about last decade.

            • @Ensign_Crab
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              014 days ago

              They did NOT do everything.

              God damn, you’re bad at reading. First you act like Manchin and Sinema were independents when they were blocking shit for you, and now you’re ignoring parts of my sentence to make it contrary to what I said.

              Manchin and Sinema did everything that YOU WANTED THEM TO DO. They blocked legislation. That’s all you wanted.

              There is no point in arguing with you since you selectively pretend to be unable to read.

              • @TheFonz
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                114 days ago

                I’m not sure where the confusion is. My whole point in that those two shits (Manchin and Sinema) did not vote with the party and blocked legislation. They worked against progressive legislation. Many of the bills had progressive policies that were taken out because of those two idiots. I’m for progressive policies but even I recognize the Democratic party was held hostage by these two shits. I thought I was clear???

                • @Ensign_Crab
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                  113 days ago

                  I’m not sure where the confusion is. My whole point in that those two shits (Manchin and Sinema) did not vote with the party and blocked legislation. They worked against progressive legislation. Many of the bills had progressive policies that were taken out because of those two idiots.

                  Right. We voted for Democrats. We gave Democrats the seats they needed. They didn’t vote in the lockstep Democrats demand from their voters.

                  I’m for progressive policies

                  But you make excuses for the party that always finds the no votes to kill them.

                  but even I recognize the Democratic party was held hostage by these two shits. I thought I was clear???

                  Held hostage. Sure. Oh no. Just enough Democrats voted against legislation that party leadership didn’t want. There are always enough Manchins.

                  Now selectively forget how to read again.

                  • @TheFonz
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                    113 days ago

                    I don’t know what your argument is any more. Sinema and Manchin were always moderates. Democrats can’t perform miracles if they don’t have enough votes. Do you have any suggestions how they could have done it with just a slim majority held back by two moderates? What’s your plan? I’m listening.

      • @Cornelius_Wangenheim
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        -115 days ago

        If they didn’t vote with the Dems when it actually mattered, why should they count?

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          315 days ago

          THEY DID. Unlike Manchin and Sinema, independents caucused with the party.

          The Democratic caucus had 50 seats. We gave them the seats. They used them like you wanted.

          • @Cornelius_Wangenheim
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            I am talking about Sinema and Manchin only. They may have had a D next to their name, but they were not on the side of Democrats when it mattered.

            • @Ensign_Crab
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              314 days ago

              And we gave Democrats those seats.

              Lying and saying that we only gave Democrats 48 just because 2 of them did everything you wanted doesn’t mean that we didn’t give Democrats what they needed.