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Democrats bet on appeals to neoconservatives — including war criminals like Dick Cheney — and touted harsh border policies, bolstering rather than challenging Republican anti-immigrant frameworks.
Kamala Harris may have relied on women to vote for abortion rights, but she promised little more than a potential return to the flawed and insufficient norm of Roe v. Wade, at best. Like President Joe Biden, she supported a genocide and failed to distinguish herself from extremist Zionists like Trump.
For Democrats, appealing to the right has been a disaster of realpolitik, especially in an electoral system that structurally favors Republicans anyway. But what’s worse, Democratic strategies have failed and harmed the most vulnerable communities both in the U.S. and those who suffer under the yoke of U.S.-backed wars.
There is an urgent need for social justice movement organizing, growing unions and union power, antagonism rather than acquiescence to existing power structures, and expansive networks of care and support. The most powerful social movements of the last decades did not primarily build on support from Democratic leadership under Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or Joe Biden. Nor did they collapse during Trump’s first tenure.
Okay. Where do I sign up?
That’s always the question, isn’t it? Like the people on Lemmy who keep calling for revolution. Okay, when and where are we meeting with the torches and pitchforks?
Mutual Aid is far more useful than revolution. In this kind of environment, the act of helping one another is revolutionary.
We are hoping for aid from this group. I’m trying to formulate an email right now.
https://www.mosaictrust.org.uk/
Do you really wonder why people dont post meetups for revolutionary activity or other incriminating things on a public forum that has an explicit no violence rule?
Not really. I’m sure they happily do their revolution cosplay somewhere else. Wake me up when the revolution actually happens because I’m 47 and I’ve been hearing about it for decades and I’m not getting any younger.
How do you think revolution works? You cannot simply violently take to the streets whenever you feel like it. You need to build up critical amounts of support or you’ll just be considered terrorists at best. A poll a while ago showed more Americans want a party to the right of repiblicans than ones who want one to the left of democrats. There are less leftists in America than any other political group and we have to fight against the entire US medias narrative to build that critical support. I love the open hostility to the smallest political group in America for not being able to save the whole fucking country with violence.
I think revolution works by having people revolt.
Again, this glorious revolution has been coming for my whole life. And before it. Phil Ochs sang a song about it in 1966.
And yet, it never comes. So how many more decades is it going to take?
If it happens after I’m dead, it’s not especially helpful.
So go revolt. You said you’re 47. What do you have to lose? Start. Pick a Target.
What have I got to lose? My daughter, first of all. Also, when has a lone revolutionary picking a random target every accomplished anything they set out to do?
Well then maybe stop bitching at others for not going first. You don’t want to do it so maybe you should pipe down.
If you think a revolution is a simple as revolting, I encourage you to go do that instead of insisting others make the world better for you. You clearly must know something no other leftist has figured out with how simple your revolution plan is.
I would argue that a small group of people taking actual action would indeed inspire others to do the same. It’s just that nobody wants to take the risk of being that first person carrying the torch.
Well I can’t say nobody, two have tried so far.
I think that if it hasn’t happened in the last 60 years, it’s probably not going to happen in the next 60.
And I’m not the one constantly talking about guillotines.
Then I suppose you’re left with no options but to continue voting for one of the two parties that got us here. But if you’re going to critisize revolutionaries then say you have no better ideas and are not trying, you look like a sports fan who thinks they could have caught the ball the athlete dropped.
The answer will depend on what orgs are in your local area. If you’re willing to share a general location and any specific interests I could do some digging.
I don’t know anything about this site but I just found it by searching: https://www.mutualaidhub.org/
Or if you’d rather search on your own, I’d look for things like [your city/region] mutual aid, resist, antifa (the last one going to be about more confrontational action so consider whether that’s your specific niche).
Another approach is to just ask friends who seem politically connected if they’ve heard of any local orgs.
Personally I would be wary of any highly top-down orgs that enforce a particular narrow ideology. Some of these can be a bit cult-like. Also get a feel for how people interact and leadership operates. Are people supportive and kind to one another or is there a lot of tension and fear? Personally I haven’t had any bad experiences yet but it’s something to be aware of if you don’t have the lay of the land in your local area.
In most cities there will be a variety of groups with different approaches and focuses, so shop around a bit and find the one that is a good fit for you.