That is genuinely the stupidest argument I have ever seen. “Yes a society where property, money, and class is abolished will become slavery.” The reason why slavery in the US was a thing is because of money, property, and class. What you just argued is like those stupid fucking boomer facebook memes where it shows “this is what communism looks like” while showing a picture of like a tent city in the US. How would slavery happen if property is abolished, money is abolished, and class is abolish? There is no structures to force labor, that is the whole point. There would be nothing for someone to hold over anyone as everything they have, everyone else already has. You are literally just making shit up.
In English they say “ignorance is bliss” but in Finnish our idiom is from the same origin in Greek (through ages) and IIRC, we’re closer to the original translation; “tieto lisää tuskaa”, “knowledge increases agony”.
My knowledge of how naive he’s being is increasing my agony at the moment. I wish I could just live in whatever world he lives in where he can homestead some potatoes and chickens and still utilise products like smartphones and high-speed internet and “just take what he wants”.
Hes also completely willfully blind to human nature.
As if greed and a desire for power is gonna magically disappear because money disappears. You’ll just end up with people hording access to resources, and the creation of a underclass of people who will be forced to work the hoarders resources under threat of beatings, deaths, or maiming of their loved ones.
and we know this, because we have documented history of this already being done, in the past, multiple times.
but it doesnt matter, as long as they get to live their carefree hippy commune fantasy.
And that is totally going to end up with how it is now.
A subclass of unwanted, uncared about workers that no one gives a single shit about until the tomato is unavilable/too expensive/etc.
Which is not meeting everyones needs.
Its meeting you and yours needs.
Genuinely how? If everyone owns things communally without the use of money as a middleman, how does that result in what we have now?
because labor becomes currency, and currency will always be horded
That is genuinely the stupidest argument I have ever seen. “Yes a society where property, money, and class is abolished will become slavery.” The reason why slavery in the US was a thing is because of money, property, and class. What you just argued is like those stupid fucking boomer facebook memes where it shows “this is what communism looks like” while showing a picture of like a tent city in the US. How would slavery happen if property is abolished, money is abolished, and class is abolish? There is no structures to force labor, that is the whole point. There would be nothing for someone to hold over anyone as everything they have, everyone else already has. You are literally just making shit up.
God I wish I was this ignorant. Probably be a lot happier.
Can’t help but agree with you.
In English they say “ignorance is bliss” but in Finnish our idiom is from the same origin in Greek (through ages) and IIRC, we’re closer to the original translation; “tieto lisää tuskaa”, “knowledge increases agony”.
My knowledge of how naive he’s being is increasing my agony at the moment. I wish I could just live in whatever world he lives in where he can homestead some potatoes and chickens and still utilise products like smartphones and high-speed internet and “just take what he wants”.
Hes also completely willfully blind to human nature.
As if greed and a desire for power is gonna magically disappear because money disappears. You’ll just end up with people hording access to resources, and the creation of a underclass of people who will be forced to work the hoarders resources under threat of beatings, deaths, or maiming of their loved ones.
and we know this, because we have documented history of this already being done, in the past, multiple times.
but it doesnt matter, as long as they get to live their carefree hippy commune fantasy.
I genuinely can’t help but to hear these guys in this WKUK skit when I read his messages.
https://youtu.be/fibDNwF8bjs?si=MvzwzoS7fk7-eLN1
Hahahaha