Quality of life is a major factor in where Americans choose to work, live and make major purchases including homes. These states are the nation's worst.
Probably because anyone who had opposing thoughts are shunned as evil without any opportunity for civil discussion, so they vote in silence and don’t speak their opinions.
So, you are saying these things are happening yet here you are speaking you opinion. You get to disagree with people just as people get to disagree with you. Say what you want, but understand there are consequences and you don’t get to dictate what those are if they make you feel bad.
But I’ve said nothing wrong yet the shunning has already begun. Literally what’s the difference between this and nazi germany or the CCP?
What have I said that is so bad that deserves the “consequences” you’re talking about? All I ask is people don’t just live in a hive mind and shun people if they haven’t done anything worth shunning. I feel like I’m the only one with open eyes and ears here. I don’t shun liberals. I only shun if people say stupid things. Why can’t it be the same from everyone.
People are disagreeing with you, not shunning you. People disagreeing with you is the consequence. That is all that is happening.
You came to a political thread and when people disagree with you, you claim your being shunned. Self reflect on that. Or don’t. I don’t give a shit what you do.
Genuine question, what do you think it means to be shunned? Everyone in this thread is responding to you. We’re talking to you. We’re reading your opinions and sharing our own in response. This direct interaction with you is the opposite of being shunned.
Do you maybe mean people disagree with you and are sharing their disagreements in comments and votes? Because this confuses me too. How isn’t this exactly what you want? Some people agree with you and others don’t. We’re all allowed to talk about our opinions too. No one is turning you away.
I feel like I’m the only one with open eyes and ears here.
If you are then you must recognize how the things you’re saying don’t make sense right now. You can’t both be shunned and continue to be in communication with those that shun you.
I only shun if people say stupid things. Why can’t it be the same from everyone.
I see this and I think “this is a person who would ‘shun’ me if I said something they deem stupid. They think my opinions are stupid. Therefore I expect to be shunned.” I’m very confused by this. If I were to say your opinions are stupid, that gives me the right to shun you, as you suggest, so I don’t think you can complain if you believe we’re doing exactly what you’re asking, no?
However, we aren’t shunning you. We are communicating. You are suggesting that you have the right to “shun” us as soon as you see something stupid. That seems wholely hypocritical and unfair. If fairness is what you’re after, you must realize this.
I don’t want to fight either, and I prefer civil, rational discussions. So please say what you really mean here. Otherwise you’re literally asking that we ‘shun’ you as per your own comment. The things you say don’t make logical sense (stupid) and we should shun stupid. I don’t think that’s very fair, but those are the rules you’re suggesting here.
Literally what’s the difference between this and nazi germany or the CCP?
What a remarkably profound insight you’ve shared! I must say, it’s truly a challenge to differentiate this forum from Nazi Germany or the CCP. In fact, I can’t seem to conjure up any distinctions at the moment, except perhaps a few minor details that some might consider noteworthy, like the violent and systematic suppression of dissenting opinions, the widespread surveillance and censorship apparatus, the imprisonment and torture of political dissidents, the forced labor camps, the state-controlled media that propagates propaganda, the indoctrination of citizens through pervasive ideological campaigns, the abhorrent human rights violations, the complete erosion of civil liberties, the absence of free and fair elections, the pervasive culture of fear and constant surveillance, the mass persecution based on ethnicity or political affiliation, the enforced conformity to a rigid ideology, the use of state power to silence and eliminate opposition, the subversion of the judicial system to serve political interests, the suppression of academic freedom, the manipulation of historical narratives, and so on and so forth.
But yes, practically the same thing. Literally 1984!
Did you come into a political community thinking you would change others’ minds? That isn’t how politics works. People change their minds through education and experience, not from random posts on the internet.
So what you’re saying is more popular opinions are probably more popular with the public… Hmmm.
Also, if you cared about karma on reddit and you care about karma on Lemmy… And both places hate republican policy… Maybe that’s a sign that their policies are literal fascist nationalist Christian shit that people don’t like. If you feel like your opinion is dragged through the mud everywhere but your dark corners and echo chambers… Maybe it belongs there lol.
What people are experiencing in the lifting of civil discussion because democrats know better now. Republicans don’t care about civil discussion and they weaponize hypocrisy like priests weaponize their dicks on choir boys mouths. Lol.
We can’t tell if the “liberal” opinion is more popular though because you guys shun anyone who thinks otherwise. I guarantee you there’s people who don’t think like you, that just agrees with you cause they don’t wanna deal with the backlash. And it’s sad af that that’s where this country is at. Im not understanding how “be more respectful” is turning into such a huge deal here.
I care about civil discussion, I’m doing it right now. I’ve insulted no one and I’ve been insulted 20 times in 10 minutes so far.
Republicans care about civil discussion, they just don’t discuss because you guys do nothing but attack. You don’t have to listen to me but this is the universal truth, both online and in person.
There is no penalty for having an unpopular comment. It’s politics, most comments will be unpopular. I think the issue you are having is that the majority of people below the age of 65 lean liberal by a wide amount. Most Conservative views these days are hate-filled and or violent. That kind of talk doesn’t appeal to the wider population.
Reality has a well known liberal bias.
Probably because anyone who had opposing thoughts are shunned as evil without any opportunity for civil discussion, so they vote in silence and don’t speak their opinions.
So, you are saying these things are happening yet here you are speaking you opinion. You get to disagree with people just as people get to disagree with you. Say what you want, but understand there are consequences and you don’t get to dictate what those are if they make you feel bad.
Stop silencing him!!! /S
But I’ve said nothing wrong yet the shunning has already begun. Literally what’s the difference between this and nazi germany or the CCP?
What have I said that is so bad that deserves the “consequences” you’re talking about? All I ask is people don’t just live in a hive mind and shun people if they haven’t done anything worth shunning. I feel like I’m the only one with open eyes and ears here. I don’t shun liberals. I only shun if people say stupid things. Why can’t it be the same from everyone.
me looking at pictures of a gas chamber and a downvote
I can’t tell the difference!
Sure, what’s happening to the Uighurs in China is bad, but this guy just got downvoted on the internet which is just as bad! Oh, the humanity!
People are disagreeing with you, not shunning you. People disagreeing with you is the consequence. That is all that is happening.
You came to a political thread and when people disagree with you, you claim your being shunned. Self reflect on that. Or don’t. I don’t give a shit what you do.
Genuine question, what do you think it means to be shunned? Everyone in this thread is responding to you. We’re talking to you. We’re reading your opinions and sharing our own in response. This direct interaction with you is the opposite of being shunned.
Do you maybe mean people disagree with you and are sharing their disagreements in comments and votes? Because this confuses me too. How isn’t this exactly what you want? Some people agree with you and others don’t. We’re all allowed to talk about our opinions too. No one is turning you away.
If you are then you must recognize how the things you’re saying don’t make sense right now. You can’t both be shunned and continue to be in communication with those that shun you.
I see this and I think “this is a person who would ‘shun’ me if I said something they deem stupid. They think my opinions are stupid. Therefore I expect to be shunned.” I’m very confused by this. If I were to say your opinions are stupid, that gives me the right to shun you, as you suggest, so I don’t think you can complain if you believe we’re doing exactly what you’re asking, no?
However, we aren’t shunning you. We are communicating. You are suggesting that you have the right to “shun” us as soon as you see something stupid. That seems wholely hypocritical and unfair. If fairness is what you’re after, you must realize this.
I don’t want to fight either, and I prefer civil, rational discussions. So please say what you really mean here. Otherwise you’re literally asking that we ‘shun’ you as per your own comment. The things you say don’t make logical sense (stupid) and we should shun stupid. I don’t think that’s very fair, but those are the rules you’re suggesting here.
What a remarkably profound insight you’ve shared! I must say, it’s truly a challenge to differentiate this forum from Nazi Germany or the CCP. In fact, I can’t seem to conjure up any distinctions at the moment, except perhaps a few minor details that some might consider noteworthy, like the violent and systematic suppression of dissenting opinions, the widespread surveillance and censorship apparatus, the imprisonment and torture of political dissidents, the forced labor camps, the state-controlled media that propagates propaganda, the indoctrination of citizens through pervasive ideological campaigns, the abhorrent human rights violations, the complete erosion of civil liberties, the absence of free and fair elections, the pervasive culture of fear and constant surveillance, the mass persecution based on ethnicity or political affiliation, the enforced conformity to a rigid ideology, the use of state power to silence and eliminate opposition, the subversion of the judicial system to serve political interests, the suppression of academic freedom, the manipulation of historical narratives, and so on and so forth.
But yes, practically the same thing. Literally 1984!
Did you come into a political community thinking you would change others’ minds? That isn’t how politics works. People change their minds through education and experience, not from random posts on the internet.
Grand ol persecution complex
Honest question - do you think there are more conservatives than liberals in the US?
How do you think republican candidates would fare without gerrymandering and the current state of the electoral college?
Go ahead. Tell us why you love having little access to childcare, healthcare, and worker’s rights.
They’d prefer not to bite the boot that stands on their face.
So what you’re saying is more popular opinions are probably more popular with the public… Hmmm.
Also, if you cared about karma on reddit and you care about karma on Lemmy… And both places hate republican policy… Maybe that’s a sign that their policies are literal fascist nationalist Christian shit that people don’t like. If you feel like your opinion is dragged through the mud everywhere but your dark corners and echo chambers… Maybe it belongs there lol.
What people are experiencing in the lifting of civil discussion because democrats know better now. Republicans don’t care about civil discussion and they weaponize hypocrisy like priests weaponize their dicks on choir boys mouths. Lol.
MuH fascism!!!
We can’t tell if the “liberal” opinion is more popular though because you guys shun anyone who thinks otherwise. I guarantee you there’s people who don’t think like you, that just agrees with you cause they don’t wanna deal with the backlash. And it’s sad af that that’s where this country is at. Im not understanding how “be more respectful” is turning into such a huge deal here.
I care about civil discussion, I’m doing it right now. I’ve insulted no one and I’ve been insulted 20 times in 10 minutes so far.
Republicans care about civil discussion, they just don’t discuss because you guys do nothing but attack. You don’t have to listen to me but this is the universal truth, both online and in person.
We shun people who say stupid, uninformed, homophobic, racist, conspiratorial nonsense. Not differing “opinions”. There’s a difference champ.
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There is no penalty for having an unpopular comment. It’s politics, most comments will be unpopular. I think the issue you are having is that the majority of people below the age of 65 lean liberal by a wide amount. Most Conservative views these days are hate-filled and or violent. That kind of talk doesn’t appeal to the wider population.
Does that mean if we keep
downloadingdownvoting you you’ll leave?Of course not. He’ll just whine louder.
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