I guess we just disagree on what doxxing is. When done correctly it’s just someone’s specific address or other info being posted publicly, it doesn’t have to be associated with a call to violence it’s more likely that people just stand outside his house with signs. It’s also not targeted at a whole neighborhood. I can see why you’re concerned that MAGA types won’t be as careful with it, but they can be charged with crimes if they take it too far just like anyone else. Simply knowing where someone lives isn’t a crime.
Imo when you doxx someone, it’s implied that you are directing people to go to their house and at minimum, confront them. I totally get the urge to do that with this person. He’s harmed a lot of people with his rhetoric. But even if accurate address, a confrontation can lead to violence when an angry person confronts a hateful person, on their property. I understand your point about protests on their street, but I still believe that will create potential for violence. I am not saying protest is wrong. Protest is great.
If it’s something than a protest or a confrontation, then we are talking about what? Sending dogshit in the mail at the low end, or throwing a Molotov cocktail or similar at the high end. Then my concerns about accuracy are relevant. What if the address is wrong and a random family is the victim?
Also, firebombing is not the society I want to live in, even if Fuentes as trash.
Everyone is so ready to assume I’m an apologist for Fuentes, or a misogynist telling women to just shut up. That’s not it at all, but people here are some ready for violence and so ready to be mad that what was formally a pretty popular sentiment (doxxing and swatting is bad) is now apparently different because the target is a bad dude. I fundamentally believe society is worse if we compromise our behavior because the target is a specific person. I also think the blowback of stooping to that level will result in increased harm of people who are already having a real tough go of things. What some are calling cowardice on my part is, in my opinion, harm reduction for people who need it most, and a call for sanity.
I guess we just disagree on what doxxing is. When done correctly it’s just someone’s specific address or other info being posted publicly, it doesn’t have to be associated with a call to violence it’s more likely that people just stand outside his house with signs. It’s also not targeted at a whole neighborhood. I can see why you’re concerned that MAGA types won’t be as careful with it, but they can be charged with crimes if they take it too far just like anyone else. Simply knowing where someone lives isn’t a crime.
Imo when you doxx someone, it’s implied that you are directing people to go to their house and at minimum, confront them. I totally get the urge to do that with this person. He’s harmed a lot of people with his rhetoric. But even if accurate address, a confrontation can lead to violence when an angry person confronts a hateful person, on their property. I understand your point about protests on their street, but I still believe that will create potential for violence. I am not saying protest is wrong. Protest is great.
If it’s something than a protest or a confrontation, then we are talking about what? Sending dogshit in the mail at the low end, or throwing a Molotov cocktail or similar at the high end. Then my concerns about accuracy are relevant. What if the address is wrong and a random family is the victim?
Also, firebombing is not the society I want to live in, even if Fuentes as trash.
Everyone is so ready to assume I’m an apologist for Fuentes, or a misogynist telling women to just shut up. That’s not it at all, but people here are some ready for violence and so ready to be mad that what was formally a pretty popular sentiment (doxxing and swatting is bad) is now apparently different because the target is a bad dude. I fundamentally believe society is worse if we compromise our behavior because the target is a specific person. I also think the blowback of stooping to that level will result in increased harm of people who are already having a real tough go of things. What some are calling cowardice on my part is, in my opinion, harm reduction for people who need it most, and a call for sanity.