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    14 hours ago

    There was no policy difference between Harris and Biden on the genocide

    The policy difference was Harris wants to end the war.

    you’re going to bat for.

    I want people to live free or die trying. You want to be morally pure.

    It does not matter how big a majority Democrats get. They find the no votes. It’s how they killed the public option when they had a supermajority.

    They managed to get to exactly 60 votes with independents twice. That’s how Joe Lieberman was able to kill the public option by threatening a filibuster. He fits the white moderate description to a T. It wouldn’t fair to do it without the Republicans. The Democrats are neoliberals, institutionalists. It only took one vote to kill the public option. They of course weren’t willing to enact systemic change to get results. I am aware. This is what I’m arguing.

    Our refusal to fix it is part of how we got here. And things will continue to get worse if we don’t take steps to fix it.

    They were successful at doing the party’s work. There are always just enough Manchins.

    Neat conspiracy theory. Manchin owns a coal company. Sinema was bought. The Democratic Party had to work around the interests of elites, which is another reason why we need wealth redistribution.

    • @Ensign_Crab
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      13 hours ago

      The policy difference was Harris wants to end the war.

      “I want to do something” isn’t a policy. “Condition weapons sales” is. “Withhold weapons sales” is. “Continue selling weapons no matter what Netanyahu does” was the policy of both Biden and Harris.

      I want people to live free or die trying.

      The Democratic Party does not agree with this.

      They managed to get to exactly 60 votes with independents twice. That’s how Joe Lieberman was able to kill the public option by threatening a filibuster. He fits the white moderate description to a T.

      Democrats had the numbers. Lieberman didn’t do it alone. He had the help of Ben Nelson among others.

      The Democrats are neoliberals, institutionalists. It only took one vote to kill the public option.

      If Lieberman changed his vote, they would have found another.

      They of course weren’t willing to enact systemic change to get results. I am aware. This is what I’m arguing.

      Our refusal to fix it is part of how we got here. And things will continue to get worse if we don’t take steps to fix it.

      With the leverage you keep pretending we have. How do we exercise this phantom leverage? Democrats’ unwillingness to listen is how we got here.

      Neat conspiracy theory. Manchin owns a coal company. Sinema was bought. The Democratic Party had to work around the interests of elites, which is another reason why we need wealth redistribution.

      Democrats don’t work around the interests of their owners. They work for them. Wealth redistribution won’t happen as long as the Democratic Party is run by corporate shit. And vague references to leverage that we can only somehow exercise by unquestioningly getting behind corporate shit only serves corporate shit.