I say this with no sense of irony or desire for the fall to happen; but he hasn’t even taken office yet, time will tell [sigh].

Oh yeah, my point isn’t that they haven’t ‘succeeded’ in that goal of seeing the US collapse; they very well may have depending on how things shake out. My point is only that their actual motivations were not, largely, their stated motivations, and the starkness of what is facing minorities in the US now makes them uncomfortable, knowing that this is what they were cheerleading for. And also that the collapse of the US isn’t going to look anything like they think it will.