And why is the W silent anyways?

  • @FourPacketsOfPeanuts
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    451 month ago

    Curiously in words related to ‘two’ the W is often pronounced!

    Twin, Twixt, Between, Twelve etc

    • @[email protected]
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      321 month ago

      Oh. My. God. I am so disappointed in myself that I never realized these words were all related before. Thank you for this gift.

      • Lvxferre
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        61 month ago

        A few less-obvious associations, just for fun:

        • Just like “the house” /s/ is “to house” /z/, “the glass” /s/ is “to glaze” /z/
        • Tiw’s Day, Wotan’s Day, Thor’s Day, Frigg’s Day. Note: Tiw, Wotan and Frigg are the native names for Norse Tyr, Odin and Freyja.
        • “Flee”, “fly”, “flow” are all related.
        • The “mus” in “muscle” is a borrowed cognate to native “mouse”.
    • @cybervseas
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      111 month ago

      By the argument, is the w in “two” actually silent? What would it sounds like when pronounced? I think it would sound like “two” already does.

      • @cannedtuna
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        251 month ago

        It would sound like “twu” as in “twu wuv”

      • @[email protected]
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        121 month ago

        It sounds exactly like “to” which means the w is silent.

        It is not pronounced at all like any of the other example words given.

      • @over_cloxOP
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        81 month ago

        I don’t necessarily think so. If the W was pronounced, I think it would sound something more like ‘tawoo’ or ‘teewoo’

      • Chozo
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        61 month ago

        I wonder if perhaps an older dialect used to pronounce the W. Lots of words have changed spelling or pronunciation over the years, so I’m curious if that might be the case with “two”, too.

        • Lvxferre
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          1 month ago

          I wonder if perhaps an older dialect used to pronounce the W.

          That’s correct, and it isn’t even that old - based on the [o:]→[u:] change it should be from 1500 or so. And the modern Scots cognate ⟨twa⟩ /twɑ:/~/twɔ:/ still has it.

    • @over_cloxOP
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      41 month ago

      Side question?

      Does twelve basically mean two eleven?

    • @Crackhappy
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      11 month ago

      The last time I was with a woman it was actually twoo, it was quite magical, I tell ya.