• oce 🐆
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    7 hours ago

    Nobody in France calls French fries or French toast “French”. We’re definitely happy to attribute the fries to our Belgian friends and nobody thinks something as ubiquitous as toasts could have a single inventor. I think those are Anglo-Saxon cultural elements.

    • @Valmond
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      64 hours ago

      Also here we call it “cafetière à piston” not french press.

    • @[email protected]
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      44 hours ago

      FIY: French toast is the english name for pain perdu.

      Also probably not “invented” by the French, but no one thinks they invented simple toast.

      • oce 🐆
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        237 minutes ago

        The article states hypothesis and guesses, it doesn’t seem to provide a definitive answer.

        Its conclusion, machine translated:

        In the first two chapters, we talked about the unlikely birth of the deep-fried potato, the result of a marriage between the potato, a popular vegetable par excellence, and cooking in a fat bath, reserved for high society. Where could this marriage have taken place? In a well-to-do kitchen with a fine frying pan? Impossible, as we saw earlier. Potatoes have no place there. In the home of the poor potato-eating bastard? Impossible too. They don’t have enough fat.

        Isn’t the answer to this question to be found in the streets of Paris, where in the 18th century, itinerant merchants carried their frying pans filled with dubious grease, into which they plunged meats and vegetables smeared with doughnut batter? Or is it to be found in a rotisserie with more extensive equipment? It’s a tempting hypothesis. As we know, the fried potato has spread through commerce. Wasn’t it born there? Is it not a purely commercial product? The inventor of the French fried potato will probably always remain anonymous, but we can guess his trade: a merchant. We can also guess his origin: Parisian.

        Pierre Leclercq

        March 2009 - December 2010

      • @[email protected]
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        33 hours ago

        As a Belgian, this is my position as well. Fries is part of the Belgian culinary culture, but it’s chauvinism to claim they were invented in Belgium.

      • @Valmond
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        24 hours ago

        Like the espresso, invented by the French (express or exprés? nobody knows which one it was, but making 1 little cup at a time was new and fast), then the Italians improved it, especially with gruppo 61, group head 61. Now they have the best coffee 😔

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        6 hours ago

        Who the hell calls it a French press, I’ve never heard anyone call it that.

        • @AnUnusualRelic
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          44 hours ago

          The US calls everything “French” because they think it’ll sell better.

          • oce 🐆
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            135 minutes ago

            Yeah, I think so too, Japan does the same with food and luxury shops.

        • @[email protected]
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          I never knew there was a different name for it. The cafetière is a new one on me, and I did French in high school. Guess we weren’t talking about coffee much, though apparently french fries came up enough for me to remember pommes frites (they probably don’t fry apples much over there).

          • @RunawayFixer
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            34 hours ago

            Some fruits can be fried in the form of “beignets”, which is fruit covered with batter and then fried. Apples are traditionally the most popular beignet recipe I think: “beignets aux pommes”.

            • oce 🐆
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              The typical beignets aux pommes are made with apple compote (apples slowly cooked in a pan with a bit of water until they become liquid).