• @Doomsider
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    -153 hours ago

    I don’t know. I do know fluoride works topically. I also know there is no mechanism in the body to return fluoride to the teeth topically after it is swallowed.

    So drinking fluoride is pointless.

    • @[email protected]
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      163 hours ago

      I don’t know.

      You don’t need to know. Statistically dental health increases when municipal water is fluoridated.

    • @ysjet
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      62 hours ago

      So you don’t know, but all the data scientists and dentists, who DO know and are subject matter experts, who say it’s a good idea are to be ignored, because of your sheer ignorance?

      • @Doomsider
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        -62 hours ago

        Nobody refutes anything I am saying. I think you are confused.

        • @ysjet
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          52 hours ago

          We’ve refuted it, scientific testing has refuted it, you’re just plugging your ears and refusing to listen because you don’t like the answers.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 hours ago

            And because random social media people spout conspiracies about it and clearly they’re more educated on the topic than actual trained professionals.

            /S

          • @Doomsider
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            -42 hours ago

            I said fluoride works topically. Do you deny this? Please provide evidence to the contrary.

            I said there is no way for the body to return fluoride where it is needed. Swallowing fluoride is pointless and unnecessary at best. At worst it is probably not a good idea to have fluoride in your water if you have kidney disease.

            Don’t bother actually, we already no you know literally nothing about this topic.

            • @brucethemoose
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              21 hour ago

              You are spouting assertions about what sounds right while ignoring bodies of scientific evidence contradicting your viewpoint. Just because Lemmy users are unwilling to spend 20-30 minutes digging through arixv to refute you doesn’t make you right.

              You don’t want to go and look up and analyze evidence that floride in the water supply is beneficial, you want to just assert the hypothesis you’ve formed as likely truth without evidence and research into related work, and I can confidently say this because experts who spend their lives reading papers and writing them on this very topic are qualified to make these assertions.

              …This “sounds right” line of thinking has been the bane of civilization for eons. You aren’t breaking up some scientific fallacy like the church believing the Earth is the center of the universe, you are perpetuating one.

              • @Doomsider
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                -128 minutes ago

                https://www.cochrane.org/news/water-fluoridation-less-effective-now-past

                The latest studies indicate fluoride in the drinking supply has little effect compared compared to fluoride toothpaste. So you once it is available the need for adding fluoride to water goes away. This has been supported by numerous studies comparing countries that do not add fluoride to their water.

                I studied this in a 400 level water course at UNI. I got to visit wastewater and water plants and speak with operators. I was surprised to learn the fluoride was not naturally occuring in the water supply as it is advertised on the EPA website.

                Then I found an article about a small town in Canada that ran out of fluoride because of a downturn in fertilizer manufacturing. I thought to myself what does fertilizer manufacturing have to do with fluoride.

                That is when I discovered the truth that a toxic by-product of fertilizer manufacturing is sold to municipalities to be disposed of in our water supply. It is not pharmeucutical fluoride because that would cost too much. Oh and it is contaminated with nasty stuff like heavy metals.

                I then did a bunch of research comparing rates of tooth decay in different areas of the world. It really did not appear to make a difference but actual dental care and fluoride toothpaste did.

                My presentation was about a hour and a half where I presented all my research. I got an A on it and everyone was very impressed with what I discovered.

                But sure tell me about my own journey when you literally have no fucking clue what you are talking about about.

      • @Doomsider
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        -113 hours ago

        If it is so good to swallow them why not swallow after brushing. Why are you so obsessed with swallowing something that does not help.

        • @Licksrocks
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          53 hours ago

          Plenty of things we ingest are toxic in high doses, but valuable in smaller amounts.

        • @[email protected]
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          23 hours ago

          Different concentrations. If water is so good for you, why don’t you drink 10 gallons a day?

          • @Doomsider
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            -32 hours ago

            So then you admit there is no point in drinking fluoride then? Miniscule amount does not make a difference and the normal topical amount you use while brushing is not safe to swallow.

            This isn’t rocket science.