Anti-NATO protesters gathered again in Montreal on Saturday to demand Canada withdraw from the alliance, a day after a demonstration organized by different groups resulted in arrests, burned cars and shattered windows.

the purpose of the protest was to demonstrate against what he called NATO’s “complicity with Israel’s military while it’s conducting its genocide in Gaza, … war crimes in Lebanon, Syria” and that “it’s enforcing illegal occupation of Palestinian territories.”

However, Allard rejected accusations of antisemitism. He said the protests were against the actions of the state of Israel and not Jewish people, adding that earlier this week the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

  • @[email protected]OP
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    I’ll try to put things into some historical perspective, as briefly as I can.

    NATO was supposed to be a stabilizing force against the Soviet Bloc. During the cold war that was the rational.

    Some claim that it was a tool to confirm and maintain US military hegemony and I tend to agree with this take. After approx 1993, through its interventions this started to be more and more obvious, especially to those living in the global South.

    • RubberDuck
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      When did NATO go to war outside the Iraq war? I seem to have missed that.

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        NATO didn’t go to war with Iraq, the coalition of the willing did. NATO got involved later on with a mission to train the Iraqi army but that’s a footnote, also, not actual combat.

        Afghanistan was a NATO war, triggered by the US invoking Article 5. NATO also intervened in Yugoslavia. Everyone was pretty much genociding everyone there, massacres left and right, but the Serbs had a disproportionate amount of military resources and were able to do systematic genocide which prompted the intervention. And please for your own sanity ignore anything Chomsky has to say about the thing he’s still calling concentration camps refugee shelters. “CIA says something so the opposite must be true” brainworms.

        • RubberDuck
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          Yeah that’s right… thanks.

          • @[email protected]
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            Ok. Let’s see where this goes:

            Was there a genocide, organised by Serbs, against Bosnians. Yes or no.

            And just for the record, yes, I’m trying to get you banned for genocide denial right now. This is a trap. Go on, do your worst.

        • @[email protected]
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          It’s not a benevolent alliance between partners, it’s a vassal-overlord relationship,

          Why do I only hear that kind of thing from Americans with their penchant for exceptionalism, or vatniks.

          You could see just how much control the US has over NATO by the amount of states telling them to pound sand when it came to Vietnam, when it came to Iraq.

        • @[email protected]
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          Do not forget who empowered the russian fascists or the talibans in the first place.

          Reagan, and the Pakistani ISI, respectively.

        • RubberDuck
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          Well that’s a constructive answer, and not even a good one. Maybe spend a little less time in your echo chambers and look at all factors of conflicts instead of US bad… rest is irrelevant.

            • RubberDuck
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              I think you are a troll…and a badly mannered one at that. Arguing against pax americana just means you have not been paying attention the last 50 years.

              I’d nuance all this… with it could have been better, the 1st world did a lot of nasty things and and and… but under a USSR victory… everyone would have been way more fucked… just look at the hellholes that modeled after the USSR and evolved from there… but yea… all the US’s fault amirite?

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                  Tell that to the people who had family butchered in Bucha, or the soldiers that came from Russian imprisonment looking like WW2 concentration camp survivors with horror stories about their abuse at the hands of Russians.

                  War is horrible, but supporting a country filled with people that do not want to be Russians is not a bad deed.

                  Even the people in the occupied territories… all that we need to negotiate… how did that work out for the world? Not standing up to tyrants just means they will do more. So as long as Ukranians say they want to fight Russia to defend their autonomy we have a moral and ethical obligation to give them what they need to win.

                  But thanks for wishing death and harm upon me and my loved ones.

                  Edit: thanks moderator :) his posts were over the line.

    • @yildolw
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      Is the post-1993 thing NATO stepping in to stop genocide in Yugoslavia?