• Flying Squid
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    -21 month ago

    How many innocent people died in those wars? It’s not very nice of you to be willing to put their lives on the line like that.

    • @WraithGear
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      41 month ago

      Oh? Now it’s a discussion about who should be sacrificed and for what. Freedom always has a cost. I never removed myself from the possibility. But right now, the royal “we”, seem to be sacrificing the minority, the different, the poor, the non christian and it gets worse every day. Freedoms are slipping, corporations get stronger, and standards of living and hope for the future fades. This will only accelerate. Arguing to arm oneself for personal protection but not collective action will doom all, but the chosen, to be picked off one by one.

      • Flying Squid
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        -11 month ago

        So when are you going to start shooting?

        • @WraithGear
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          When it’s needed. I don’t see a path that prevents tyranny or revolution, but that doesn’t mean there is none. You say that people should arm themselves, and i agree, the main difference being what we see as the threat i guess. But I take inspiration from the Black Panthers. I believe they were right and righteous in their actions, no matter what was taught in schools. And you know they were effective, because the state conspired against them and they got the NRA TO ARGUE FOR MORE RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS because they have a certain power dynamic they want to uphold.

          • Flying Squid
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            -11 month ago

            I don’t remember the Black Panthers starting a guerilla war like what you’re advocating for.

            When is this guerilla war going to be “needed?”

            • @WraithGear
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              31 month ago

              I’m not saying a gorilla war is needed. I am saying collective action is needed.

              The reason i bring up gorilla warfare is because of the “there is no point in fighting tyranny because it’s too hard” argument. in the recent wars verses gorilla warfare and insurgency, it has been an absolute shit show boondoggle for the last 3 wars we have been in. And that is with the advantage of untouchable logistics, the world’s largest, and most secure, military industrial complex, top of the line weapons and training, and the homeland being unreachable.

              Either way it’s best if those we care about own and become proficient in fire arms.

              • Flying Squid
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                01 month ago

                You’re saying collective action with firearms is needed. Which, as I already showed, is probably doomed to failure.

                • @WraithGear
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                  11 month ago

                  You haven’t showed anything. You asserted. And i brought up the black panthers as the counter argument.

                  • Flying Squid
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                    01 month ago

                    It was not a counter argument because the black panthers were not fighting back against a genocidal regime, which is what queer people are facing. If Jews marched around Nazi Germany with guns, they would have just been picked off by snipers from rooftops.