Worry not: they’ll still pollute because the tires running on the road release micro-particle, a problem which EVs didn’t solve and which the tendency for bigger cars, which is unrelated to EV adoption but has been happening in parallel, makes worse.
Mind you, EVs are much better, but cars are still a problem on the pollution front (and the danger for people front, and the stealing of natural public spaces to put roads on front, and on the making most of the public space dangerous for children to play in front and so on).
I have seen this comment made about tires only in the last few years. I am curious why people are concerned about it now? Also I have only seen it when EVs are reducing CO2 emissions. It has nothing at all to do with reduced gas and CO2 emissions.
More BS being pushed by the far right and entrenched i.c.e. interests. They never seem to admit that the low rolling resistance ties that are standard on most, if not all EVs, produce less particulate pollution than normal tires on an ice vehicle.
Eta: also I rarely see anyone talking about EVs and tire particulate pollution bring up brake particulate pollution. Almost like they know EVs with Regen braking would stomp any ice competitor.
RE: low rolling resistance tires: not so sure about that. My little BEV has those tires and they wear faster. Part of it is the high torque of my car combined with the stiffer tire material means way more tire spin outs even when just driving casually.
The extra weight of the battery even in my tiny car means more tire wear as well. So even if I get 100,000km from the brake pads I am using a lot more tire than previous ICE cars. I’m pretty conscious about that being the primary active pollutant from my travel.
I’ve been warning people about cadmium poisoning caused by tire pollution for 20 years, and learned about it because of tire usage in children’s playgrounds and alternative building projects.
Microplastic accumulation is largely due to tires.
It’s not some political shit. It’s chemistry and biology.
Public transit and other ways to reduce tire usage are required to reduce the risks.
More BS being pushed by the far right and entrenched i.c.e. interests.
It’s perfectly possible to be wary of this on a general anti-car basis, which is neither a far right nor a pro-ICE position.
They never seem to admit that the low rolling resistance ties that are standard on most, if not all EVs, produce less particulate pollution than normal tires on an ice vehicle.
Do you have any numbers I can see on this claim? I’m interested to see.
Eta: also I rarely see anyone talking about EVs and tire particulate pollution bring up brake particulate pollution.
I’d also be interested in the numbers on this factor.
To be clear - I think all ICE vehicles should be taken off the road, I just think that the general number of vehicles on the road should decline by a massive factor, to be replaced by superior alternatives in bicycles and trains.
I’m not entirely sure the consideration of tires as a pollutant is necessarily a right wing argument. It may be coming from the angle of public transit and distaste for cars.
Worry not: they’ll still pollute because the tires running on the road release micro-particle, a problem which EVs didn’t solve and which the tendency for bigger cars, which is unrelated to EV adoption but has been happening in parallel, makes worse.
Mind you, EVs are much better, but cars are still a problem on the pollution front (and the danger for people front, and the stealing of natural public spaces to put roads on front, and on the making most of the public space dangerous for children to play in front and so on).
I have seen this comment made about tires only in the last few years. I am curious why people are concerned about it now? Also I have only seen it when EVs are reducing CO2 emissions. It has nothing at all to do with reduced gas and CO2 emissions.
More BS being pushed by the far right and entrenched i.c.e. interests. They never seem to admit that the low rolling resistance ties that are standard on most, if not all EVs, produce less particulate pollution than normal tires on an ice vehicle.
Eta: also I rarely see anyone talking about EVs and tire particulate pollution bring up brake particulate pollution. Almost like they know EVs with Regen braking would stomp any ice competitor.
RE: low rolling resistance tires: not so sure about that. My little BEV has those tires and they wear faster. Part of it is the high torque of my car combined with the stiffer tire material means way more tire spin outs even when just driving casually.
The extra weight of the battery even in my tiny car means more tire wear as well. So even if I get 100,000km from the brake pads I am using a lot more tire than previous ICE cars. I’m pretty conscious about that being the primary active pollutant from my travel.
I’ve been warning people about cadmium poisoning caused by tire pollution for 20 years, and learned about it because of tire usage in children’s playgrounds and alternative building projects.
Microplastic accumulation is largely due to tires.
It’s not some political shit. It’s chemistry and biology.
Public transit and other ways to reduce tire usage are required to reduce the risks.
It’s perfectly possible to be wary of this on a general anti-car basis, which is neither a far right nor a pro-ICE position.
Do you have any numbers I can see on this claim? I’m interested to see.
I’d also be interested in the numbers on this factor.
To be clear - I think all ICE vehicles should be taken off the road, I just think that the general number of vehicles on the road should decline by a massive factor, to be replaced by superior alternatives in bicycles and trains.
I’m not entirely sure the consideration of tires as a pollutant is necessarily a right wing argument. It may be coming from the angle of public transit and distaste for cars.
Because nothing is ever good enough