Trains are great to connect cities. But a train trip for me will tipically take me will typically take 3 times longer than it would with a car. Last time I had to take the train/bus it took me 6 hours and had to change between 3 busses and 1 train. I could have done the whole trup in 2 hours, no changes and actually same price as I spent on fuel for my car.
And this is in Scandinavia where things run pretty smoothly!
I agree that within cities public transportation is great. But there are people who need cars no matter how many trains you set up or electrify. For us, EV is a good option (when they become more affordable)
This falls apart as soon as high-speed rail comes into play. I’ve done multiple train trips that outpace car trips primarily cause the train goes faster than the car.
Honestly no matter how fast the trains go, I won’t get home faster than when I use my car. You may, and many others may. The train I have to use connects two major cities. That connection is fair I need to change to several busses though to get from door A to B and that messes things up.
Trains are great if you live in the cities they go through but you can’t gave trains go through all cities let alone villages
the thing with trains is they get more inefficient the more tracks there are. Trains are great for connecting a few high spots with high traffic between them, not for everyone’s daily transportation needs.
No… I trains are great to comment A and B. But If you don’t live in A or B, the they are not great… The train network is fair where I live and covers a lot of the country. But still not everyone can use them. The majority of people living in cities can though. It will never cover the needs of all
In my country, 30 years ago, there was a train station every two villages.
French government built a crazy train network in the first half of the 20th century because it was the backbone of war logistics, and it allowed people to move. Cars and Europe made both these needs obsolete, so the rail network was abandoned.
You don’t need to go more than 2km to find a train station in my country, it’s just that most are abandoned now.
Yes it does. Even a dirt road is still a road. Debris free and compacted. You want to prove me wrong, try driving your car on farmland or through forest and see how far you get.
Oh, I did just that for many years while living in a countryside of a small country in Eastern Europe. Does that look like bloody road to you? Debree free and compacted?
Trust me, you don’t need roads for cars, any wide trail suitable for walking or horse riding will do. And there are more trails like that in the world than all the paved roads and railroads combined.
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Trains are great to connect cities. But a train trip for me will tipically take me will typically take 3 times longer than it would with a car. Last time I had to take the train/bus it took me 6 hours and had to change between 3 busses and 1 train. I could have done the whole trup in 2 hours, no changes and actually same price as I spent on fuel for my car.
And this is in Scandinavia where things run pretty smoothly!
I agree that within cities public transportation is great. But there are people who need cars no matter how many trains you set up or electrify. For us, EV is a good option (when they become more affordable)
This falls apart as soon as high-speed rail comes into play. I’ve done multiple train trips that outpace car trips primarily cause the train goes faster than the car.
Honestly no matter how fast the trains go, I won’t get home faster than when I use my car. You may, and many others may. The train I have to use connects two major cities. That connection is fair I need to change to several busses though to get from door A to B and that messes things up.
Trains are great if you live in the cities they go through but you can’t gave trains go through all cities let alone villages
Ok hear me out, what about trains on streets (also known as trams :P)
That’s because your country has a shitty rail network.
Before there were roads everywhere the car were not as practical.
the thing with trains is they get more inefficient the more tracks there are. Trains are great for connecting a few high spots with high traffic between them, not for everyone’s daily transportation needs.
No… I trains are great to comment A and B. But If you don’t live in A or B, the they are not great… The train network is fair where I live and covers a lot of the country. But still not everyone can use them. The majority of people living in cities can though. It will never cover the needs of all
In my country, 30 years ago, there was a train station every two villages.
French government built a crazy train network in the first half of the 20th century because it was the backbone of war logistics, and it allowed people to move. Cars and Europe made both these needs obsolete, so the rail network was abandoned.
You don’t need to go more than 2km to find a train station in my country, it’s just that most are abandoned now.
A car doesn’t need a road that’s the thing.
Yes it does. Even a dirt road is still a road. Debris free and compacted. You want to prove me wrong, try driving your car on farmland or through forest and see how far you get.
Oh, I did just that for many years while living in a countryside of a small country in Eastern Europe. Does that look like bloody road to you? Debree free and compacted?
Trust me, you don’t need roads for cars, any wide trail suitable for walking or horse riding will do. And there are more trails like that in the world than all the paved roads and railroads combined.
That’s exactly what is is. Dirt road. Look it up.
Is it debris free? No. Is it compacted? No. It’s not even flat.
What is this statement? Do you really think this? Here’s a trail I was walking on recently, please show me a car that could handle this.
That’s not a trail, innit?
???
oh, let’s just go drive across grass. Those traffic lights? Don’t need 'em.
Yeah, and it’s GREAT!