I agree with the girl. If you’re willing to steal from a McDonalds, what else are you scheming and how long until those scheme involve me?
Theft is theft and I’d want nothing to do with it.
Edit.
I don’t care about McDonalds, I care about the lads moral compass and how he is willing to show off his “trick” to a first date and just drag her into a scheme.
At least wait a while to say “what if we made 3 accounts and just got 3 orders of the $1 nugget deal?”
If the date is cool with it, great f* big corp. If not, you know she’s got morals that don’t perfectly align with yours - which is okay, as long you respect that and figure it out.
I’ll stand by my statement “theft is theft”, but I myself also won’t deny having some morally gray online activities. However, I wouldn’t want to have a first movie date through a movies123 clone. First impressions are key.
LOL at the downvotes. Like showing your date a scam on a first date is perfectly reasonable behavior. Sometimes lemmy just screams, “I can’t get laid to save my life! Why not?!”
My first date with my (now) wife featured us watching a movie after I showed her how to torrent it. It’s an easy way to parse through date prospects who are too hung up on corporate-defined ethics. I knew she was a catch when she was interested in the prospect of bypassing overpriced movie fees, rather than worrying about how some billion-dollar company was going to get my $10, like some other dates I’d had.
Agree and disagree. His “schemes” are going to be more like: “drive me around on Halloween while I run up to the storefront and take all the candy left out for kids!”
If you think that someone “stealing” 30 chicken nuggets from a company worth over 200 billion dollars is somehow an indication that they must also treat their loved ones poorly, you’re thinking far too simply about the complexity of human motivation. Amazingly, exploiting soulless corporations and hurting people are completely unrelated behaviors.
I do believe McDonald’s pays back their franchisee for promos like this, they’re essentially “Manufacturers coupons” (When you use a manufacturer coupon, the retailer can reclaim their cost of the merchandise with them)
Do you think if I googled “McDonald’s wage theft” it would come up with some stories?
…now you might say “two wrongs don’t make a right to thins”… But what if I could then find similar scams and problems centered around exploitation in all billion dollar companies or billionaire rises to power.
Now what if I could then trace these stories back through time and find many billionaires come from wealthy families, and many wealthy families have ties to even more dubious and exploitative practices throughout history.
…from things like America’s wars for banana republics or fascists in Latin America, to things like The Triangle Shirtwaist fire maybe even some going back through WW1 & 2, or slavery and colonization.
So it’s also a question of what is wrong in the world at large and how to resolve or replace it.
P.S Obviously this assumes those chickens wanted to be nuggets. Turns out moral philosophy is just more difficult than “what’s wrong is wrong”.
Oh no! Someone stole from a multi-billion dollar global company! That very same company who wouldn’t hesitate a second if it could make money murdering you without consequence! How dare they!
I agree with the girl. If you’re willing to steal from a McDonalds, what else are you scheming and how long until those scheme involve me? Theft is theft and I’d want nothing to do with it.
Edit. I don’t care about McDonalds, I care about the lads moral compass and how he is willing to show off his “trick” to a first date and just drag her into a scheme. At least wait a while to say “what if we made 3 accounts and just got 3 orders of the $1 nugget deal?”
If the date is cool with it, great f* big corp. If not, you know she’s got morals that don’t perfectly align with yours - which is okay, as long you respect that and figure it out.
I’ll stand by my statement “theft is theft”, but I myself also won’t deny having some morally gray online activities. However, I wouldn’t want to have a first movie date through a movies123 clone. First impressions are key.
LOL at the downvotes. Like showing your date a scam on a first date is perfectly reasonable behavior. Sometimes lemmy just screams, “I can’t get laid to save my life! Why not?!”
My first date with my (now) wife featured us watching a movie after I showed her how to torrent it. It’s an easy way to parse through date prospects who are too hung up on corporate-defined ethics. I knew she was a catch when she was interested in the prospect of bypassing overpriced movie fees, rather than worrying about how some billion-dollar company was going to get my $10, like some other dates I’d had.
Fucking bootlickers… 🙄
Bet you get a lot of second dates. JFC you people, showing off a scam on a first date and y’all defending the guy?
Applause for the woman being up-front and honest!
Agree and disagree. His “schemes” are going to be more like: “drive me around on Halloween while I run up to the storefront and take all the candy left out for kids!”
If you think that someone “stealing” 30 chicken nuggets from a company worth over 200 billion dollars is somehow an indication that they must also treat their loved ones poorly, you’re thinking far too simply about the complexity of human motivation. Amazingly, exploiting soulless corporations and hurting people are completely unrelated behaviors.
It’s probably a franchisee who isn’t a billionaire. More than likely you’re stealing from someone who only has tens of millions.
(I think it’s 2-3 million to start a fast food joint.)
I do believe McDonald’s pays back their franchisee for promos like this, they’re essentially “Manufacturers coupons” (When you use a manufacturer coupon, the retailer can reclaim their cost of the merchandise with them)
Definitely not theft by any meaningful definition
Theft of the workers’ time to make your scam order when they already have a busy shitty job.
The workers are stuck there until their shift is over either way. They also don’t get paid more or less if you pay full price or not.
Perhaps the most merciful thing to do is to not eat at McDonald’s at all?
Do you think if I googled “McDonald’s wage theft” it would come up with some stories?
…now you might say “two wrongs don’t make a right to thins”… But what if I could then find similar scams and problems centered around exploitation in all billion dollar companies or billionaire rises to power.
Now what if I could then trace these stories back through time and find many billionaires come from wealthy families, and many wealthy families have ties to even more dubious and exploitative practices throughout history.
…from things like America’s wars for banana republics or fascists in Latin America, to things like The Triangle Shirtwaist fire maybe even some going back through WW1 & 2, or slavery and colonization.
So it’s also a question of what is wrong in the world at large and how to resolve or replace it.
P.S Obviously this assumes those chickens wanted to be nuggets. Turns out moral philosophy is just more difficult than “what’s wrong is wrong”.
Lemmy teenagers coming for you on this one. How about zero exploits on a first date?
Oh no! Someone stole from a multi-billion dollar global company! That very same company who wouldn’t hesitate a second if it could make money murdering you without consequence! How dare they!
Imagine if Maid Marian had thought that way.
King Richard had an outlaw for an in-law.
This sounds like the tagline for a romcom version of robin hood made in 1998
Nah, it was said multiple times in the Disney cartoon from the 70s, including in the ending sequence
But who steals from the thieves?
the cops