• @[email protected]
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    2723 hours ago

    I question the source of this 7.2m number. Since they are illegal, they don’t exactly report themselves. Additionally, how many of those have been here a while? How many came through under trump. All you say is “magnitudes less” but offer no numbers for that.

    Sounds like you watch a lot of Fox News and listen to a lot of trump speeches. Those numbers seem to jump around a lot. Almost as if they are entirely made up on the fly.

    I guess the best option is to make this place so unlivable for everyone that no one would ever want to move here. Good luck with the brain drain.

    • @shalafi
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      You can get a fair picture here:

      https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters

      Nothing you can part a hard number on, obviously. But you can derive trends easily enough.

      For example, check 2024, a year that’s trended down. Let’s pretend that number was 100,000 immigrants/month for all of that year, and we’re being ridiculously conservative here. That’s 1.2 million souls. These are real people, that require food, water, shelter, medicine, all that. It’s a bit staggering just imagining the infrastructure needed, let alone humanitarian needs.

      So, using stupid low numbers, that adds to 4.8m people in 4-years. We could drill down forever, but that count is not going to get lower. 7.2m strikes me as a reasonable figure. Especially if we’re including immigrants from sources other than the Southern border.

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        519 hours ago

        So what is before 2022? I’m on a phone rn so maybe I can’t see it all, but I’m guessing it looks that that all the way back to 2016. So, not really a “Biden” thing. Just a regular thing that happens.