This is not about Italian tomatoes but Chinese. Working conditions in agriculture may be worse than in other sectors, but here we apparently deal with slave-like conditions in Chinese prison-factories. Just read my other comment in this thread or the whole article.
I also think that Italy delivers high quality products in a lot of industries, including in the food sector if I may say so. But this article is about China anyway in the first place.
I agree with you generally, but unfortunately even in Italy there are plenty of slave-like situations in agriculture. Just recently there has been the case of Satnam Singh, and many before in the tomato industry.
Yes, I agree. It’s far from being perfect anywhere. I’d just say we shouldn’t generalize. One thing we need is more transparency in our global supply chain I guess.
Unfortunately, this is Europe-wide and beyond. E.g. in Germany, you then have workers from countries such as Romania etc. Many farmers growing veggies can’t afford just paying local people doing the work, even if they wish. Unless people will begin valuing food more again and pay the actual price needed to cover the expences that situation won’t change, but I guess most would just go for cheaper products, spend the money on consumer goods, the next holiday, or simply don’t have enough themselves once the rent is paid.
Adding to that, being a farmer isn’t really a valued job in society. I mean just compare salaries of someone working in IT with someone working on a veggie farm. Says everything. Question is just which of both is more important to survive.
This is about products from China, produced with forced labour in China, wrongfully labeled as ‘Italian’.
And, yes, the conditions in the agri-sector might be bad, they must be improved, which is another reason why we need more transparency in supply chains.
Yeah, I read it. Inisghtful, I wasnt aware China was involved as much in food deliveries and I’m surprised they grow that amount of actual tomatoes and not tennis balls dipped in red paint.
Just wanted to add my thoughts about that Europe-Discussion because I think there’s no point in blaming other countries for something thats not running 100% at home.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, I do in no way argue that we can just easily compare labour conditions in Europe with those in China. But the system beneath is the same, and that was my point I guess. It’s slavery and exploitation. Difference is maybe the political environment and the degree of human rights.
This food delivery situation is already a huge problem in Europe with monocultures, diseases and climate change and it will get even worse next year, after the floods in Spain.
Absolutely agree that we need more transparency. We need more transparency in oh so much.
“Italian” as a mark of quality is useless anyway. And working conditions in the agrarian sector there are anything but praiseworthy either.
This is not about Italian tomatoes but Chinese. Working conditions in agriculture may be worse than in other sectors, but here we apparently deal with slave-like conditions in Chinese prison-factories. Just read my other comment in this thread or the whole article.
I also think that Italy delivers high quality products in a lot of industries, including in the food sector if I may say so. But this article is about China anyway in the first place.
I agree with you generally, but unfortunately even in Italy there are plenty of slave-like situations in agriculture. Just recently there has been the case of Satnam Singh, and many before in the tomato industry.
Yes, I agree. It’s far from being perfect anywhere. I’d just say we shouldn’t generalize. One thing we need is more transparency in our global supply chain I guess.
Unfortunately, this is Europe-wide and beyond. E.g. in Germany, you then have workers from countries such as Romania etc. Many farmers growing veggies can’t afford just paying local people doing the work, even if they wish. Unless people will begin valuing food more again and pay the actual price needed to cover the expences that situation won’t change, but I guess most would just go for cheaper products, spend the money on consumer goods, the next holiday, or simply don’t have enough themselves once the rent is paid.
Adding to that, being a farmer isn’t really a valued job in society. I mean just compare salaries of someone working in IT with someone working on a veggie farm. Says everything. Question is just which of both is more important to survive.
This is about products from China, produced with forced labour in China, wrongfully labeled as ‘Italian’.
And, yes, the conditions in the agri-sector might be bad, they must be improved, which is another reason why we need more transparency in supply chains.
Yeah, I read it. Inisghtful, I wasnt aware China was involved as much in food deliveries and I’m surprised they grow that amount of actual tomatoes and not tennis balls dipped in red paint.
Just wanted to add my thoughts about that Europe-Discussion because I think there’s no point in blaming other countries for something thats not running 100% at home.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, I do in no way argue that we can just easily compare labour conditions in Europe with those in China. But the system beneath is the same, and that was my point I guess. It’s slavery and exploitation. Difference is maybe the political environment and the degree of human rights.
This food delivery situation is already a huge problem in Europe with monocultures, diseases and climate change and it will get even worse next year, after the floods in Spain.
Absolutely agree that we need more transparency. We need more transparency in oh so much.
Sure, but all the products were marked as “Italian” so it’s dishonest product labelling