I love how people in America voted Dems out because they’re struggling to feed their families, and Biden’s only priorities here are keeping his scumbag son out of prison and making sure war is escalated as much as possible before his term ends.
Escalated? Oh do tell me how exactly that’s going to work. We’re already at a full scale invasion with nearly a million casualties. What, are they going to invade harder? Fuck off, spew russian propaganda elsewhere. If you need help grasping the concept, here’s a handy chart.
They’re not uneducated. They’re desperate, and they spent the last 8 years watching both parties ignore how much they’re struggling. Why miss a day of work when you know your vote doesn’t matter?
Also, you need to ditch this smugness if you want to win people to your side.
Apathetic != uneducated. Plenty of people don’t vote because they can’t be bothered to.
My own mother refused to register for DECADES because “I don’t want to be picked for jury duty.” Not making that up. I finally convinced her to register after pointing out jury duty also comes from drivers license records.
Yup, and the sad part is, I called it before the election. The only reason voter participation was up in 2020 was because Covid restrictions encouraged vote by mail.
Without the vote by mail push, participation was going to drop, and because the Democrats benefited more from vote by mail, it was going to hurt them.
No… no they’re uneducated and it’s very much the correct word in this.
Regular rants “Why won’t Biden just get rid of student debt?” Because the Supreme Court stopped him. Twice. Telling him it’s congresses job.
“Why hasn’t Biden helped the economy” CHIPS act and moving major manufacturing back to America. Gonna take time for it to spin up after so long of sending jobs out of country but it’s gotta go. Also some of the biggest infrastructure movements since the New Deal despite the Republicans in Congress trying to stop it.
The big hit during election of people googling “Did Biden drop out?”
I love how uneducated people didn’t vote at all and allowed a sexual predator and Russian asset to become president, again.
It’s crazy how liberals hate democracy immediately when their 10 dimensional multi-spreadsheet chess doesn’t work out in their favor because the father of the family of 4 down the street is too stupid to realize that over a 10 year horizon earned income tax credits will have netted him $70k as long as his and his wife’s combined maximum AGI doesn’t go over $64k, and he only has to pays an average rent of $210,000 for that same period as long as his kids are doubled up in the other bedroom of a two bedroom 950sqft apartment. Is it too much for these morons to say you’re welcome. It’s like you still have the rest of your money to feed and take care of your family, kids are cheap right? If not you can just put them to work but make sure that your AGI doesn’t go above $64k otherwise you can kiss that lucrative $7k a year net goodbye. I mean honestly a little thanks should be expected if you can just wait out 12 years and save that $7k you’ll save up 20% of an average home price using today’s prices (don’t ask how much you’ll need for a down payment in 12 years please).
Yeah it’s really funny because this stream of bullshit is exactly what Democrats offer and what they talk about when they talk about how they affect normal people. By the way this is all literally just tax code mixed with cost of housing averages over 10 years. It quite literally would make sense to anyone who’s ever been a big boy and model citizen by standards that liberal Democrats love to tout, like being smart, doing your own home work, and loving the optimization of spreadsheets about various cost/risk balances in your life.
The fact that you cannot understand it and blame voters for being stupid entirely shows you cannot live up to that standard. So beyond just a reflexive hatred of democracy, you’re not even a good lib. And maybe, if you cannot even understand the practical application of one of the shining policies that the Democratic party loves to throw in the face of people as an example of how they made their lives better and how they will continue to do so, just maybe you’re also no better than the “voters” who you consider stupid.
No I’m saying maybe offer people something other than tax spread sheet bullshit, which is generally all the democratic party can ever do. They fucking can’t stop talking about the EITC.
If y’all are gonna LARP again as “serious leftists” for 4 years and then put it all down to elect another Joe Biden and go back to brunch then yeah. Sounds like what you want is to not care.
Also if you haven’t noticed that half of your party now agrees with a core set of Trump policies because Biden/Harris implemented quite literally Trump policies or Trump adjacent policies regarding immigration, national security and trade.
Hey, quick question, which country invade Ukraine? Did the US, is that how they are escalating? Oh wait, no it was russia that did it. Right you meant to blame russia for doing this right?
So official comes out and says, we are going to deploy as much military equipment possible using the money that Congress had appropriated for it. (Note Congress was held by a Republican majority). And people think Bidens administration is somehow spending money that could have been used for the American people… Where the Republican majority congress DID NOT appropriate it.
First Past The Post voting artificially limits the number of viable political parties to two. With state level electoral reform, people would be free to vote outside the two party system secure in the knowledge their vote would still be counted against those they don’t want in office.
That said, I’m glad ukraine is getting more. Just wish this had happened 2 years ago. To answer your previous question:
Free social housing for all.
The for profit home building/loan industry has failed to do their job and all subsidies and benefits they enjoy must be stripped away. We should build the mega cities from judge dredd and run high speed rail from them to the nearest downtown metro.
This is a housing crisis, start acting like it. Declare a national emergency, use the army core of engineers and eminent domain to build.
Stop involving the people who helped create the housing crisis. Stop being held back by red tape.
High rent and low wages, Mao what’s the worst that could happen?
How’d you come to that conclusion? Also there’s more than one thing on every ballot. Where I live both local and state people are ranked choice votes so the oligarchy has a much harder time buying elections. Thanks California!
You’ll support the Ukraine if I, a 47-year-old with severe health issues that can’t walk much more than half an hour without needed to rest due to them, who has never shot a gun in his life, and who has the flattest feet you have ever seen to go over to Ukraine and fight for them? (Oh, also I’m a coward so I would definitely get scared and run away.)
I find it hard to believe that you would only support Ukraine if they allow people so obviously unfit for duty into their military.
“the Ukraine” referred to the region while it was still part of the Russian/Soviet empire. Nowadays just “Ukraine” is the better way to say it, from what I understand.
If you expect the worlds richest man (has he done anything for anyone?) and the worlds most useful idiot (he won’t even pay his bills) to help anyone, enjoy the dirt you head is buried in.
And it was the Rs that lied to the public in order to bomb Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place.
And trump now threatens to court marshall those in the military that “got us out” of Afghanistan by following the deal he made in negotiating with the Taliban.
Israel’s genocidal gov can burn in hell.
So can Putin’s.
The states that legalized weed…were states. It’s still a federally listed substance on the same level as heroin. (Were those states R or D?)
More covid aid that went to corporations.
Also, withheld aid to states he didn’t like.
Also, delayed aid.
Also, he prevented purchase of medical supplies.
Also, promoted conspiracy theories.
His inaction, deception, and disinformation help killed over a million.
I already said I agree with OP on Trump and Musk being assholes, but that doesn’t change the fact that some good was done in his first term. It’s a matter of historical fact, not opinion.
I will never understand how a war on the other side of the planet is important to me, my life, my family, my community, or anything or here. Why isn’t the other wars important? Isn’t there a civil war in Myanmar? What about the wars in Africa?
And the US has been helping Saudi Arabia starve and devastate Yemen for eight years.
They think Ukraine is important because their preferred news network tells them it is over, and over, and over, and over again and they don’t consume any media that sways from that narrative.
When the war between Russia and Ukraine first started in 2022 I was seeing reports of the Ukrainians trying to force Africans on student visas to stay in the country and fight. That’s when I decided that I don’t gaf about Ukraine.
You realise youtube is not a primary source? ABC would be, if they linked their actual article, which they don’t. So how’s about you offer a source that is 1. Verifiable and 2. is actually a primary source.
Not hard to find the evidence
Evidently it was, as you posted little more than anecdotes. And just in case you meant that as a gotcha, the onus of evidence is on you as you are the one making the claim.
I remember seeing similar reports, in other news-sources, at the time, BAD racism & prejudice…
These aren’t the only evidences that people have seen.
Poland was also apparently very-bad for anti-Black racism, in the news, of that time…
( not pretending that North America’s somehow clean or just or right, just … except for the Deep South, in the US, North America’s less aggressive that what was being-made-visible in East Europe, then…
Nothing’s going to make racism NOT self-perpetuate, except for “combined arms” dismantling it…
that’s always been true.
Northern Ireland, Palestine, Rwanda, multiple angles in Asia, Indigenous people, all kinds of “racisms”, all the same ideology/identity root
& the same dismantling-through-shared-great-value-work being the only possible dismantling of it… )
As someone of Ukrainian descent I do. My grandfather fled the Holomodor to arrive in Canada in the 1920s, where he was able to put down $20 and prove out a section of land in a 5 year period to earn title to that land. That said, I am glad you used an actual news source. When I first saw that they were youtube links I was already going, “Oh boy, here we go again with a raging conspiracy theorist,” but I was pleasantly surprised that it was DW News, an outlet that plays on my smarthub, along with CBC news.
That said, you have anything newer than 2 years ago? It would be interesting to learn if there has been any progress on this.
I love how people in America voted Dems out because they’re struggling to feed their families, and Biden’s only priorities here are keeping his scumbag son out of prison and making sure war is escalated as much as possible before his term ends.
Great stuff, Genocide Joe.
I’m pretty sure Ukraine not defending itself would escalate the war, what with it resulting in Russia taking over the rest of the country.
Although I suppose that would eventually end it. Maybe in the way you want?
Escalated? Oh do tell me how exactly that’s going to work. We’re already at a full scale invasion with nearly a million casualties. What, are they going to invade harder? Fuck off, spew russian propaganda elsewhere. If you need help grasping the concept, here’s a handy chart.
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They’re not uneducated. They’re desperate, and they spent the last 8 years watching both parties ignore how much they’re struggling. Why miss a day of work when you know your vote doesn’t matter?
Also, you need to ditch this smugness if you want to win people to your side.
Spend 8 years watching both parties ignote their struggles, and then vote for the one that’s actively promising to make them worse?
Bold move, Cotton.
I think they’re talking about people who didn’t vote at all, not Trump voters.
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Apathetic != uneducated. Plenty of people don’t vote because they can’t be bothered to.
My own mother refused to register for DECADES because “I don’t want to be picked for jury duty.” Not making that up. I finally convinced her to register after pointing out jury duty also comes from drivers license records.
So what you’re saying is that your mom was pretty uneducated and only participated in the voting process after you educated her.
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Yup, and the sad part is, I called it before the election. The only reason voter participation was up in 2020 was because Covid restrictions encouraged vote by mail.
Without the vote by mail push, participation was going to drop, and because the Democrats benefited more from vote by mail, it was going to hurt them.
Surprise, surprise, that’s exactly what happened.
No… no they’re uneducated and it’s very much the correct word in this.
Regular rants “Why won’t Biden just get rid of student debt?” Because the Supreme Court stopped him. Twice. Telling him it’s congresses job.
“Why hasn’t Biden helped the economy” CHIPS act and moving major manufacturing back to America. Gonna take time for it to spin up after so long of sending jobs out of country but it’s gotta go. Also some of the biggest infrastructure movements since the New Deal despite the Republicans in Congress trying to stop it.
The big hit during election of people googling “Did Biden drop out?”
Yea. That’s uneducated.
It’s crazy how liberals hate democracy immediately when their 10 dimensional multi-spreadsheet chess doesn’t work out in their favor because the father of the family of 4 down the street is too stupid to realize that over a 10 year horizon earned income tax credits will have netted him $70k as long as his and his wife’s combined maximum AGI doesn’t go over $64k, and he only has to pays an average rent of $210,000 for that same period as long as his kids are doubled up in the other bedroom of a two bedroom 950sqft apartment. Is it too much for these morons to say you’re welcome. It’s like you still have the rest of your money to feed and take care of your family, kids are cheap right? If not you can just put them to work but make sure that your AGI doesn’t go above $64k otherwise you can kiss that lucrative $7k a year net goodbye. I mean honestly a little thanks should be expected if you can just wait out 12 years and save that $7k you’ll save up 20% of an average home price using today’s prices (don’t ask how much you’ll need for a down payment in 12 years please).
Are voters stupid?
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Yeah it’s really funny because this stream of bullshit is exactly what Democrats offer and what they talk about when they talk about how they affect normal people. By the way this is all literally just tax code mixed with cost of housing averages over 10 years. It quite literally would make sense to anyone who’s ever been a big boy and model citizen by standards that liberal Democrats love to tout, like being smart, doing your own home work, and loving the optimization of spreadsheets about various cost/risk balances in your life.
The fact that you cannot understand it and blame voters for being stupid entirely shows you cannot live up to that standard. So beyond just a reflexive hatred of democracy, you’re not even a good lib. And maybe, if you cannot even understand the practical application of one of the shining policies that the Democratic party loves to throw in the face of people as an example of how they made their lives better and how they will continue to do so, just maybe you’re also no better than the “voters” who you consider stupid.
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So you’re saying people should be happy Trump got elected again?
It’s an .ml CCP mouthpiece. Don’t feed it.
They are no longer here to be fed.
No I’m saying maybe offer people something other than tax spread sheet bullshit, which is generally all the democratic party can ever do. They fucking can’t stop talking about the EITC.
So people should be unhappy that Harris wasn’t elected?
Who gives a fuck? Harris’ own team knew she was unelectable. This is only a surprise to libs who are so high on copium they cannot read a room.
So people shouldn’t give a fuck that Trump is president?
If y’all are gonna LARP again as “serious leftists” for 4 years and then put it all down to elect another Joe Biden and go back to brunch then yeah. Sounds like what you want is to not care.
Also if you haven’t noticed that half of your party now agrees with a core set of Trump policies because Biden/Harris implemented quite literally Trump policies or Trump adjacent policies regarding immigration, national security and trade.
Hey, quick question, which country invade Ukraine? Did the US, is that how they are escalating? Oh wait, no it was russia that did it. Right you meant to blame russia for doing this right?
I will support the Ukraine war if you all go in-person to fight it.
Until then, I’d much rather see those dollars spent here.
Thanks.
They are spending it here.
Lots of the stuff sent to Ukraine is things that have a shelf life anyway.
It’s not like you could subsist on artillery shells anyway.
So official comes out and says, we are going to deploy as much military equipment possible using the money that Congress had appropriated for it. (Note Congress was held by a Republican majority). And people think Bidens administration is somehow spending money that could have been used for the American people… Where the Republican majority congress DID NOT appropriate it.
Who do you think is making the military gear? Most sent over its old shit wasting space in storage anyway
What specific policies do you want to see those dollars spent on here. Be specific. List 5.
Who did you vote for that supports that?
First Past The Post voting artificially limits the number of viable political parties to two. With state level electoral reform, people would be free to vote outside the two party system secure in the knowledge their vote would still be counted against those they don’t want in office.
That said, I’m glad ukraine is getting more. Just wish this had happened 2 years ago. To answer your previous question:
The for profit home building/loan industry has failed to do their job and all subsidies and benefits they enjoy must be stripped away. We should build the mega cities from judge dredd and run high speed rail from them to the nearest downtown metro.
This is a housing crisis, start acting like it. Declare a national emergency, use the army core of engineers and eminent domain to build.
Stop involving the people who helped create the housing crisis. Stop being held back by red tape.
High rent and low wages, Mao what’s the worst that could happen?
Bernie, the last time the oligarchs allowed me to, as a treat.
So you’ve just been abstaining ever since?
How’d you come to that conclusion? Also there’s more than one thing on every ballot. Where I live both local and state people are ranked choice votes so the oligarchy has a much harder time buying elections. Thanks California!
So you did not vote and allowed trump to take office?
How did you come to that conclusion? Also hello brand new troll account, you’ll be gone soon.
You’ll support the Ukraine if I, a 47-year-old with severe health issues that can’t walk much more than half an hour without needed to rest due to them, who has never shot a gun in his life, and who has the flattest feet you have ever seen to go over to Ukraine and fight for them? (Oh, also I’m a coward so I would definitely get scared and run away.)
I find it hard to believe that you would only support Ukraine if they allow people so obviously unfit for duty into their military.
Yeah… This is going to Ukraine, so yeah it’s just kind of important.
Unless you are one of these people that think Russia should be allowed to just have Ukraine.
“the Ukraine” referred to the region while it was still part of the Russian/Soviet empire. Nowadays just “Ukraine” is the better way to say it, from what I understand.
That’s what they say about every war.
Obama had us at war in seven countries, all of which were super-important too. (Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, and Syria.)
But no money for health care or to put food on your table, of course.
If you expect the worlds richest man (has he done anything for anyone?) and the worlds most useful idiot (he won’t even pay his bills) to help anyone, enjoy the dirt you head is buried in.
Hes one of the new waves of trolls. Either block him or make a user note so you can downvote him in every thread so people know not to engage.
I think he blocked me. Lol. He stopped responding anyway.
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And it was the Rs that lied to the public in order to bomb Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place.
And trump now threatens to court marshall those in the military that “got us out” of Afghanistan by following the deal he made in negotiating with the Taliban.
Israel’s genocidal gov can burn in hell.
So can Putin’s.
The states that legalized weed…were states. It’s still a federally listed substance on the same level as heroin. (Were those states R or D?)
More covid aid that went to corporations.
Also, withheld aid to states he didn’t like.
Also, delayed aid.
Also, he prevented purchase of medical supplies. Also, promoted conspiracy theories.
His inaction, deception, and disinformation help killed over a million.
And he sent Putin covid testing supplies.
I don’t know who you’re arguing with here.
I already said I agree with OP on Trump and Musk being assholes, but that doesn’t change the fact that some good was done in his first term. It’s a matter of historical fact, not opinion.
I just gave you the historical facts. You choose to ignore them.
Ah, it makes sense now.
Arguing for its own sake is how you entertain yourself. Have fun with that.
I will never understand how a war on the other side of the planet is important to me, my life, my family, my community, or anything or here. Why isn’t the other wars important? Isn’t there a civil war in Myanmar? What about the wars in Africa?
You think they’ll stop at Ukraine? If Russia continues to encroach in Europe it will affect you in USA. Just a matter of time.
No it won’t
~French people witnessing the invasion of Poland, 1939
Oh yeah, you"re right, let’s appease the dictator because that worked so well last time.
Where is your certainty coming from?
Not even a little bit? What leads you to this conclusion?
And the US has been helping Saudi Arabia starve and devastate Yemen for eight years.
They think Ukraine is important because their preferred news network tells them it is over, and over, and over, and over again and they don’t consume any media that sways from that narrative.
When the war between Russia and Ukraine first started in 2022 I was seeing reports of the Ukrainians trying to force Africans on student visas to stay in the country and fight. That’s when I decided that I don’t gaf about Ukraine.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<Citation Needed>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(that’s not Russian state TV)
Here is one report of the difficulties non white students had leaving.
More reports.
Here is a report of someone from the Congo being told to fight for Ukraine.
So as someone of african decedent I don’t give a fuck about Ukraine.
Cool story, still bullshit
Cool story huh? Not hard to find the evidence. Here is some for you:
Here is one report of the difficulties non white students had leaving.
More reports.
Here is a report of someone from the Congo being told to fight for Ukraine.
Still bullshit?
So you sent three youtube videos…
You realise youtube is not a primary source? ABC would be, if they linked their actual article, which they don’t. So how’s about you offer a source that is 1. Verifiable and 2. is actually a primary source.
Evidently it was, as you posted little more than anecdotes. And just in case you meant that as a gotcha, the onus of evidence is on you as you are the one making the claim.
I remember seeing similar reports, in other news-sources, at the time, BAD racism & prejudice…
These aren’t the only evidences that people have seen.
Poland was also apparently very-bad for anti-Black racism, in the news, of that time…
( not pretending that North America’s somehow clean or just or right, just … except for the Deep South, in the US, North America’s less aggressive that what was being-made-visible in East Europe, then…
Nothing’s going to make racism NOT self-perpetuate, except for “combined arms” dismantling it…
that’s always been true.
Northern Ireland, Palestine, Rwanda, multiple angles in Asia, Indigenous people, all kinds of “racisms”, all the same ideology/identity root
& the same dismantling-through-shared-great-value-work being the only possible dismantling of it… )
_ /\ _
You wanna link some of that claim?
Here is one report of the difficulties non white students had leaving.
More reports.
Here is a report of someone from the Congo being told to fight for Ukraine.
So as someone of african decedent I don’t give a fuck about Ukraine.
As someone of Ukrainian descent I do. My grandfather fled the Holomodor to arrive in Canada in the 1920s, where he was able to put down $20 and prove out a section of land in a 5 year period to earn title to that land. That said, I am glad you used an actual news source. When I first saw that they were youtube links I was already going, “Oh boy, here we go again with a raging conspiracy theorist,” but I was pleasantly surprised that it was DW News, an outlet that plays on my smarthub, along with CBC news.
That said, you have anything newer than 2 years ago? It would be interesting to learn if there has been any progress on this.