• @Jackthelad
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    161 month ago

    “symbolic” being the key word.

    This won’t lead to anything.

      • NickwithaC
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        101 month ago

        It was…

        Then it wasn’t.

        • @Jackthelad
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          -31 month ago

          But what would be the point of having a referendum, getting the results and then just saying “oh right, that’s interesting” and doing nothing?

          • @[email protected]
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            61 month ago

            What would be the point of having a referendum and deciding that 51% was enough to burn it all without a plan?

            • @Jackthelad
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              -31 month ago

              The stupidity of politicians is not a reason to ignore what people vote for.

          • Zagorath
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            21 month ago

            The smart move would be to do Brexit the same way NZ did their flag referendum. First, consult to figure out a small number of possible popular forms of Brexit: soft, hard, technically-still-in-but-with-more-opt-outs? Work it out in enough detail that people can have a relatively clear idea of the goal of each of the 3–5 options, including details like migration, Northern Ireland, and agricultural policy.

            Then, put those small number of options to a vote. Ideally using Instant Runoff Voting or Approval Voting, rather than First Past the Post. “Do nothing at all” is not an option at this stage.

            Finally, put the option that won the last vote in a head-to-head vote against “do nothing at all”. If the “exit” vote wins, trigger article 50 and negotiate according to the clearly-stated goals of the people.

            “Brexit means Brexit”, tory MPs kept saying. Absolute nonsense. Brexit meant a thousand things to a thousand people. Pretending otherwise made a mockery of democracy.

            It’s absolutely insane that New Zealand put more effort into proper democratic processes over something as trivial as their flag design than the UK did over their most fundamental piece of foreign policy.

          • @FelixCress
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            11 month ago

            Let me think… Possibly because it was based on lies, manipulation and the significant part of the UK residents were disenfranchised?

            • @Jackthelad
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              -51 month ago

              Who was disenfranchised? It was the biggest democratic vote in the UK’s history, if I recall correctly.

              • @FelixCress
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                11 month ago

                Just three million of EU citizens in the UK and hundreds of thousands of UK citizens in the EU.

                • @Jackthelad
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                  -21 month ago

                  They can’t vote in general elections either.

                  • @FelixCress
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                    1 month ago

                    Your point is? They live in the UK, pay taxes here - and by the way, they were able to vote in Scottish Independence referendum.

                    I would like to see Tories if SNP were to exclude English voters from the independence vote.