This is the first time I’m seeing a way to host a full Bluesky network, I think. It seems like a big step towards full federation beyond appviews and personal data servers.

  • @solrize
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    241 month ago

    There is already a fediverse twitalike called mastodon. I don’t understand why anyone here cares about bluesky.

      • @solrize
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        221 month ago

        By that logic we should also connect up with facebook and 4chan, not to mention twitter itself. bsky is just another one of those platforms from what I can tell. It is fairly new so not yet blatantly evil, but give it time. We here are supposed to know better.

        • @[email protected]
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          61 month ago

          By that logic we should be happy gazing at our own navels, shouting to the void, looking at empty pages.

        • Communist
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          41 month ago

          bluesky is foss and open to federation, why not bluesky? Also a mastodon bluesky bridge is possible because of this as well

          • @solrize
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            121 month ago

            It’s not about the code, it’s about control of the servers and feeds. Decentralization doesn’t just mean multiple servers. It means no single entity has special authority over the user community. That isn’t the case with bluesky from what I can tell.

            • @[email protected]
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              71 month ago

              You are correct, if you take a step back and consider bluesky wholistically, it is DEFINITELY not decentralized.

          • Slueth
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            51 month ago

            Investors offer money, federation goes bye-bye and you end up with another twitter.

    • @Docus
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      281 month ago

      Because mastodon is the Linux of social media. One day it will be ready for the average user…

      • Marud
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        141 month ago

        2025 is the year of Linux Desktop Mastodon

    • @iopq
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      121 month ago

      Because it doesn’t have search (at least my instance doesn’t), doesn’t show engagement so the whole thing feels empty like people are posting into the void

      • @solrize
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        -61 month ago

        If the problem is fixable technical shortcomings, why not fix them instead of throwing up our hands and surrendering?

        • @[email protected]
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          121 month ago

          As a Linux user since 2007 I feel a little dirty uttering this phrase, but:

          Because not everyone is a developer.

          • @solrize
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            21 month ago

            You don’t have to be a developer to use Lemmy, yet it has similar features to reddit including search. Maybe there are sociological issues in growing its userbase, but not serious technical ones, as Usenet showed 40 years ago.

            It sounds like mastodon still has technical issues . If Lemmy’s were solvable, mastodon’s are too. Otherwise, how did mastodon get built in the first place?

            • @[email protected]
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              101 month ago

              Just clarifying because I feel we’re talking past each other:

              You asked the folks in this discussion:

              If the problem is fixable technical shortcomings, why not fix them instead of throwing up our hands and surrendering?

              to which I said

              Because not everyone is a developer.

              to which you said

              You don’t have to be a developer to use Lemmy

              True. But that’s not what where we’re at in the discussion.

              It sounds like mastodon still has technical issues . If Lemmy’s were solvable, mastodon’s are too. Otherwise, how did mastodon get built in the first place?

              I’m quite sure they are solvable, but likely not by the folks complaining about the technical issues and choosing to use other services like bluesky. Because not everyone is a developer.

              So in other words, I think your musing out loud about why don’t we solve the issues instead of giving up and using something else is being directed to the wrong people.

        • @iopq
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          41 month ago

          Not showing engagement is a choice, they don’t want people to interact with the most popular things

          But everyone just wants Twitter, not someone’s ideas of what social media should be