• @WrenFeathersM
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    617 hours ago

    lesser evil voting is not a democratic ideal.

    Neither is staying home and not voting at all.

    • @Maggoty
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      -216 hours ago

      If you can’t abstain then you don’t have a democracy. (Yes Australia i’m looking at you) You have a system of coerced consent where the political parties wouldn’t even know how to change, but that’s okay because there’s no incentive to change in such a system either.

      It’s literally the fastest way to get Party AB instead of Party A and Party B.

      • @TrickDacy
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        614 hours ago

        Great you started with the conclusion that not voting is fine and then tried to find a way to justify it. You failed.

        • @Maggoty
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          -49 hours ago

          I’m not going to write a 20 page paper for you. This is what it is. If people have to vote then the sitting parties have no reason to respond to voters.

          • @TrickDacy
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            29 hours ago

            What the hell are you talking about? Your solution to making democracy work seems to be telling people to stay home on election day. Fucking brilliant

            • @Maggoty
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              -49 hours ago

              No. The people can certainly go vote if they want. They can also stay home if they want.

              • @TrickDacy
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                29 hours ago

                You prefer the latter, or I wouldn’t see you defending that shit in every fucking thread.

                • @Maggoty
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                  -47 hours ago

                  I prefer actual democracy.

        • @Maggoty
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          -19 hours ago

          Write ins aren’t actually a free for all in most states. You have to qualify with signatures for the state to bother counting them. So no, not really.

      • @WrenFeathersM
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        15 hours ago

        Look up what “ideal” means, and note that it doesn’t mean “only option.”

        You specifically chose the word. I am responding to that. And to that end: Not participating in an election is NOT an ideal way to have a democracy. In fact- it flies is the face of it.

        • @Maggoty
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          -39 hours ago

          So in political philosophy ideals are only related to the common definition. This wiki page gives a good use of the philosophical definition in action.

          I probably should have used a different word on Lemmy though.