• MudMan
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      117 days ago

      “Gamers are used to fiddling”?

      No. Gamers are largely playing on Switch. And PS5, sometimes.

      The residual amount of people playing on PC are annoyed by fiddling, with very rare exceptions.

      Hell, I fiddle. I’ve been known to fiddle in my day. And I’m here complaining about the fiddling. I’m a representative of extreme tolerance to fiddling and I’m annoyed.

      • MrScottyTay
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        87 days ago

        I like fiddling. Sometimes i fiddle and then never actually use what I was fiddling with once it’s working. But even I would gladly welcome not needing to fiddle at all.

        • @[email protected]
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          7 days ago

          Lol I literally did that twice yesterday with two seperate games…

          But yeah, I also have a PS5, and it’s great to just hit X and go.

        • MudMan
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          17 days ago

          Fiddling with things and actually using things are entirely independent hobbies.

          As any midde age nerd who briefly got into restoring retro gaming hardware will tell you. Not that I would know anything about that.

          • @theangryseal
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            37 days ago

            I went nuts with retro restores and collecting in the 2010s. Now it’s just a bunch of shit in my bedroom that annoys my wife. It’s nice to have it all though. Here recently I’ve been using my Genesis 6 button arcade stick on the Steam deck and playing classic mortal kombat. I hardly ever have to buy hardware because I have everything that was made between 1980 and 2005.

            It’s like the kid in me who only got two games per console and had to borrow the rest or rent them just exploded. I have a game shelf that my 12 year old self would sit before and cry. I don’t have time for any of it which would make him cry some more.

            • MudMan
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              27 days ago

              The thing is, I play a ton of retro games, but I mostly mediate that through RetroAchievements. Since they keep adding new games and have leaderboards and so on it’s a great way to have something to follow to help you prioritize your time, instead of standing in front of a wall of boxes paralyzed between replaying Sonic 2 or trying some obscure thing you got seven times in bundles.

              But I still love having original hardware in working order plugged into a CRT. It’s just almost an archeological pursuit. A shrine to what all these repurposed games I play on modern hardware used to actually look like. And it’s fun to fiddle with them for maintenance.

              • @theangryseal
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                I feel you there. It’s funny, you described me last night exactly and I played about 10 minutes of sonic 2 haha. Everything is plugged into an old Apple color monitor. I love that thing and I’ve had it all my life.

                I’m gonna check that out. I had never heard of it.

      • @ampersandrew
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        37 days ago

        PC represents more than half of the market at this point, which we’ve seen in investor reports from the likes of Ubisoft and Capcom, even if many PC players are annoyed by fiddling.

        • MudMan
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          37 days ago

          Not true. Or very incomplete, at least. By the newest reports the market is 49% mobile, 28% console and 23% PC, but that’s by revenue, not player counts.

          See, if you wanted to torture stats to shoo me away, you should have gone by the market share of GOG, which is quite small. Technically by the numbers they’d be smarter to prioritize getting Roblox and Fortnite working first.

          • @ampersandrew
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            37 days ago

            I definitely don’t consider mobile to be the same market, for what you must find to be obvious reasons. I’m not sure where GOG comes into this discussion at all.

            • MudMan
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              -27 days ago

              I swear, online contrarians don’t even bother to read what they respond to now.

              GOG comes into play because you’re arguing about the necessity of Steam offering third party store support in SteamOS game mode. Welcome back to the conversation you’re actually having.

              • @ampersandrew
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                47 days ago

                In an online forum, where you can write a paragraph, the replies you get may or may not pertain to the entire conversation and instead only one part of it. I responded only to the size of the market used to fiddling, and that’s the conversation you and I were having. However, you seem like an extremely unpleasant person, or maybe someone who just had a bad day, so I’m not interested in continuing that conversation.

                • MudMan
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                  -27 days ago

                  It really isn’t mandatory. I applaud the walking away. My day is average to decent, honestly.

                  And no, you’re making excuses. This isn’t Twitter, it’s well threaded. I expect you to understand what you’re replying to. Especially if you butt in two posts from the start of the thread.