I agree with everything in your comment, except for this:
To murder a person is to take their internal and external value, and to break their dignity. This is something which is not compatible with my consciousness.
The issue is the justice system has been perverted to protect these people. There is no legal avenue to stop this person from doing harm. This leaves only extra-legal options (namely murder, though maybe there’s other options but I don’t know what that’d be). In my ideal world, murder wouldn’t be necessary ever. We don’t live in that world though. Murder that is done to save lives is a positive in my opinion.
Its the trolley problem. There’s an uncountable number of different versions of them (some with babies, some with murderers, some with millions of people, etc.), but they effectively all center around when you think killing is acceptable. Different people will have different lines, but almost always everyone will agree there is some point where at least one person’s death is an acceptable outcome that they’d take part in.
Yes, I understand. It is really really gray and complicated here. I’m very conflicted here - on one hand, murder is always a death of a human being who could improve and also has good sides, see my parent comment. On the other hand, exactly as you write sometimes the death of a person means that others will survive.
My point is that no person deserves to die BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE - that’s exactly what the Nazis did. But I absolutely understand the ethical argument that people deserve to die for WHAT THEY DO. If you cannot stop a greedy CEO otherwise (because the judicial system is maybe a little tiny bit biased towards the rich), there really isn’t another choice for fulfilling your rights. And I can honestly respect your argument that in this case, murder may be an overall good thing. I don’t know where the line for me is, to be honest - but I acknowledge that is has to exist somewhere.
I hope you understand though why from my perspective the dragon metaphor is a bit too simple, because as our thread shows the topic isn’t easy at all :/
I agree with everything in your comment, except for this:
The issue is the justice system has been perverted to protect these people. There is no legal avenue to stop this person from doing harm. This leaves only extra-legal options (namely murder, though maybe there’s other options but I don’t know what that’d be). In my ideal world, murder wouldn’t be necessary ever. We don’t live in that world though. Murder that is done to save lives is a positive in my opinion.
Its the trolley problem. There’s an uncountable number of different versions of them (some with babies, some with murderers, some with millions of people, etc.), but they effectively all center around when you think killing is acceptable. Different people will have different lines, but almost always everyone will agree there is some point where at least one person’s death is an acceptable outcome that they’d take part in.
Yes, I understand. It is really really gray and complicated here. I’m very conflicted here - on one hand, murder is always a death of a human being who could improve and also has good sides, see my parent comment. On the other hand, exactly as you write sometimes the death of a person means that others will survive.
My point is that no person deserves to die BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE - that’s exactly what the Nazis did. But I absolutely understand the ethical argument that people deserve to die for WHAT THEY DO. If you cannot stop a greedy CEO otherwise (because the judicial system is maybe a little tiny bit biased towards the rich), there really isn’t another choice for fulfilling your rights. And I can honestly respect your argument that in this case, murder may be an overall good thing. I don’t know where the line for me is, to be honest - but I acknowledge that is has to exist somewhere.
I hope you understand though why from my perspective the dragon metaphor is a bit too simple, because as our thread shows the topic isn’t easy at all :/