I feel like Asimov’s statement has to be couched in some larger discussion. Taken in a vacuum, I can see some merit, but I can’t say that I completely agree with it. Incompetent in what aspect? I feel that his quote ignores intention. For some, violence isn’t something that they’re resorting to due to a failure to communicate through conflict, it is the preferred tool for the job. He comes off a little condescending and armchair intellectual-y here. I prefer the Sun Tzu quote someone mentioned earlier in the thread, “Violence is a precipitation of two sides unwilling to compromise.”
yeah I love Asimov but the quote is stupid. What is a slave supposed to do to it’s master? Write a strongly worded letter? Beg for others to save them?
Violence absolutely makes sense when there’s no diplomatic solution and unfortunately quarter into the 21st century - where we should have personal robots and moon bases - that is still a pretty big issue.
If life was a story book probably pleed their case to a rich influence noble or seduce a bishop and have them work to slowly change society and in 70 years it works out by using the system to change things from within… end of story
Real life: Then some dbag who likes the old ways will ruin everything and here we are going back to square one.
The M4A movement was absolutely incompetent if you compared it to health insurance Super PACs. It was basically a bunch unpaid volunteers, many with their own medical debt, against fully salaried lobby groups paid for with our premiums, our denied claims.
“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent”
~ Asimov
And here we are, nailed to the fucking wall. I’m fine with expanding this “incompetence”.
I feel like Asimov’s statement has to be couched in some larger discussion. Taken in a vacuum, I can see some merit, but I can’t say that I completely agree with it. Incompetent in what aspect? I feel that his quote ignores intention. For some, violence isn’t something that they’re resorting to due to a failure to communicate through conflict, it is the preferred tool for the job. He comes off a little condescending and armchair intellectual-y here. I prefer the Sun Tzu quote someone mentioned earlier in the thread, “Violence is a precipitation of two sides unwilling to compromise.”
yeah I love Asimov but the quote is stupid. What is a slave supposed to do to it’s master? Write a strongly worded letter? Beg for others to save them?
Violence absolutely makes sense when there’s no diplomatic solution and unfortunately quarter into the 21st century - where we should have personal robots and moon bases - that is still a pretty big issue.
If life was a story book probably pleed their case to a rich influence noble or seduce a bishop and have them work to slowly change society and in 70 years it works out by using the system to change things from within… end of story
Real life: Then some dbag who likes the old ways will ruin everything and here we are going back to square one.
The M4A movement was absolutely incompetent if you compared it to health insurance Super PACs. It was basically a bunch unpaid volunteers, many with their own medical debt, against fully salaried lobby groups paid for with our premiums, our denied claims.
So like, one rough day, and I mean really rough? Sounds familiar, wait it’s coming back… dictator but only on day one - that kind of thing?