• Ech
    link
    fedilink
    English
    147 days ago

    No.

    Yes.Using chatgpt as a search engine showcases a distinct lack of media literacy. It’s not an information resource. It’s a text generator. That’s it. If it lacks information, it will just make it up. That’s not something anyone should use as any kind of tool for learning or researching.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      16 days ago

      Both the paid version of OpenAi and co-pilot are able to search the web if they don’t know about something.

      The biggest problem with the current models is that they aren’t very good at knowing when they don’t know something.

      The o1 preview actually solves this pretty well, But your average search takes north of 10 seconds.

      • @lurklurk
        link
        English
        06 days ago

        They never know about something though. They are just text randomisers trained to generate plausible looking text

          • @lurklurk
            link
            English
            3
            edit-2
            6 days ago

            The problem isn’t that the model doesn’t know when it doesn’t know. The models never know. They’re text predictors. Sometimes the predictive text happens to be right, but the text predictor doesn’t know.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              English
              -16 days ago

              So, let me get this straight. It’s your purpose in life, to find anytime anyone mentions the word know in any form of context to butt into the conversation with no helpful information or context to the message at hand and point out that AI isn’t alive (which is obvious to everyone) and say it’s just a text predictor (which is misleading at best)? Can someone help me crowdsource this poor soul a hobby?

              • @lurklurk
                link
                English
                16 days ago

                You’re strangely angry

                • @[email protected]
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  16 days ago

                  Every time I try to talk about something, somebody who has very little knowledge about the subject but very strong feelings about it, butts into pedant a point.

                  It gets kind of tiring, I guess.

                  How you doin?

                  • @lurklurk
                    link
                    English
                    06 days ago

                    I get it, My point was needlessly pedantic. Sorry about that

    • @lemmylommy
      link
      English
      -1
      edit-2
      6 days ago

      Well, inside that text generator lies useful information, as well as misinformation of course, because it has been trained on exactly that. Does it make shit up? Absolutely. But so do and did a lot of google or bing search results, even prior to the AI-slop-content farm era.

      And besides that, it is a fancy text generator that can use tools, such as searching bing (in case of ChatGPT) and summarizing search results. While not 100% accurate the summaries are usually fairly good.

      In my experience the combination of information in the LLM, web search and asking follow up questions and looking at the sources gives better and much faster results than sifting though search results manually.

      As long as you don’t take the first reply as gospel truth (as you should not do with the first google or bing result either) and you apply the appropriate amount of scrutiny based on the importance of your questions (as you should always do), ChatGPT is far superior to a classic web search. Which is, of course, where media literacy matters.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      06 days ago

      You ate wrong. It is incredibly useful if the thing you are trying to Google has multiple meanings, e.g. how to kill a child. LLMs can help you figure out more specific search terms and where to look.

      • Ech
        link
        fedilink
        English
        06 days ago

        LLMs can help you figure out more specific search terms and where to look.

        Not knowing how to use a search engine properly doesn’t mean these sites are better. It just means you have more to learn.