I’m European using signal, I frequent in two countries very often (not neighbouring countries) and for the past two years I’ve noticed more and more people using signal.
Ditched whatsapp half a year ago and haven’t had problems. Some friends use both signal and whatsapp.
Not saying many in whole Europe use signal but it certainly is not only popular in US.
Edit: but not saying using signal will change anything if this bill passes. No matter what popular app we use we are going to have no privacy at all if this thing passes…
WhatsApp uses the same encryption as Signal and chat screening won’t be exclusive to WhatsApp anyway, so whatever WhatsApp will need to implement to comply, Signal will have to follow.
End to end encrypted, I think chat control is all about client-side scanning so the app being open source is a big deal and would prevent client-side scanning because even if they build in client-side scanning, it’s open source and people can remove it.
Signal is pretty control freak-y, so would not be surprised if they can somehow prohibit third-party modifications entirely. That would be out-of-character for them, though, so doubt they would actually go through with this.
Still, if that went through, I’d discount all the centralized solutions.
I’m European using signal, I frequent in two countries very often (not neighbouring countries) and for the past two years I’ve noticed more and more people using signal.
Ditched whatsapp half a year ago and haven’t had problems. Some friends use both signal and whatsapp.
Not saying many in whole Europe use signal but it certainly is not only popular in US.
Edit: but not saying using signal will change anything if this bill passes. No matter what popular app we use we are going to have no privacy at all if this thing passes…
WhatsApp uses the same encryption as Signal and chat screening won’t be exclusive to WhatsApp anyway, so whatever WhatsApp will need to implement to comply, Signal will have to follow.
Signal is open source, so no it will always be available without chat control. https://github.com/signalapp
Good luck setting up your own server and convincing everybody else to use that.
Signal is not federated. It relies on a central server, meaning for all intends and purposes Signal controls the entire chain.
End to end encrypted, I think chat control is all about client-side scanning so the app being open source is a big deal and would prevent client-side scanning because even if they build in client-side scanning, it’s open source and people can remove it.
Signal is pretty control freak-y, so would not be surprised if they can somehow prohibit third-party modifications entirely. That would be out-of-character for them, though, so doubt they would actually go through with this.
Still, if that went through, I’d discount all the centralized solutions.
Just have the server link a hidden device, boom, all chats decrypted.
Only if they do business in the EU…
Very true. It wont matter what pops up in the appstore after either.