• Neuromancer
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    3920 hours ago

    She should not be charged in my opinion. It wasn’t a credible threat.

    What the shootings has done is shown how many Americans are fed up with the current system.

    You’re seeing stories from democrat and republicans.

    I don’t condone the violence at all but he may have sparked a medical revolution in our country.

    • masterofn001
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      2219 hours ago

      Saying (paraphrased) “you’re next” is not a threat. It’s an observation.

      She made no threat.

      • Neuromancer
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        I’m not a person who does protest but I would march for changes to our medical system. While I’ve had a positive experience, the stories I’m hearing are mind blowing. It’s beyond absurd. Even if 90% of them were false. It’s still too many horrible stories but I suspect they are mostly true.

        • @[email protected]
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          Mostly the same. My biggest headache has been some of my dependents have secondary insurance and no matter which company I’ve been with at the time, they always assume all of the do and will forget multiple times a year which are which and deny all of them claims until I talk to them because there are of course no self serve options there.

          I also care for a child who is on medicaid, never any problems there. All the scary news on how I shouldn’t be able to find providers has never been an issue and they are many medical conditions.

          Those are the stories I call bullshit on. They want us to be afraid of single payer so they over emphasize lack of care while ignoring the people who directly pay and actually lack care.

          • Neuromancer
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            I always assumed that everyone’s experience was similar to mine. That’s why these stories have been mind blowing.

            I needed a PA for a very expensive mediation that most insurances deny. Uhc did deny it but then called the provider and walked them through the forms to get it covered. All in the same day.

            Yet you read about them deny cancer medication.

            I support a dual system where everyone has coverage but people can have private as well. That’s the Australian model. I think that would be easier to pass in America.

            All I know is this drew the average person to speak out against our medical system.

        • @[email protected]
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          06 hours ago

          While I’ve had a positive experience

          Let me guess, still on parents insurance or never had insurance through an employer?

          • Neuromancer
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            25 hours ago

            I’m 51. I’ve always had health insurance through my employer. Never an issue. Most of my career has been in tech companies where the insurance is much better than the average company I’ve discovered.

            • @[email protected]
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              15 hours ago

              I’m only a few years younger and have pretty much always had shitty/non-existent insurance until the last decade.

              Without revealing too much about myself, my employer just switched their provider to UHC this year so you can imagine I’m watching all this intently.

              • Neuromancer
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                I’ve had nothing but positive experiences with them and I’ve had them on and off for thirty years.

                That said, I think it’s because tech has better insurance than I realized. Many of the stories coming out are from uhc and I believe them

    • @[email protected]OP
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      620 hours ago

      Do you have any links to conservative takes on this? I know full well I am in a bubble and that’s the way I god damn like it. But in this case, knowing the universality of the sentiment would be really, umm, empowering?

      • Neuromancer
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        2420 hours ago

        Well I am a conservative and mostly associate with conservatives. Talking to my liberal friends, their take is almost identical to my Republican friends.

        I don’t think people realized how aligned everyone is on this issue.

        It’s the stories that are coming out that is making people talk about this topic. Those stories were ignored until the CEO was murdered.

        People denied cancer treatment. wtf.

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          27 hours ago

          I live in an area so red that if you saw it you’d say it was bleeding. The people here always, and I mean always, talk about how wrong it is for someone to act as a vigilante, and murder is wrong, and the insurance companies might be not-the-best, but it’s no excuse… bla bla bla. They think the woman here is in the wrong, and don’t even care.

          See the recent slew of posts about the new york times for the conservative take on the issue.