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    15 hours ago

    so you can observe the freedom in same sex marriages, but you can’t observe the right to be in a same sex marriage? I don’t follow, it’s the same thing.

      • @davidagain
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        1015 hours ago

        If it’s a right encoded in law, you can see it written down in the text of the relevant law. Freedom is no less abstract than rights.

          • @davidagain
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            614 hours ago

            You can observe someone exercising their freedom exactly as much as you can observe someone exercising their rights. What you can’t see is a freedom written down, unless it’s in the form of legal rights. Laws don’t protect freedoms any more than they protect rights. You like the word freedom, you don’t like the word right. They’re both abstract concepts.

              • @davidagain
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                513 hours ago

                Not very effectively, but it’s better than not having laws protecting them.

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                    13 hours ago

                    No, but you also spent hours arguing with bland factual statements like “most male cows are killed for meat before adulthood”, “milk is farmed because there is demand for it”, and “the natural lifespan of cattle is 15-20 years”, so I’m not sure your opinion carries a great deal of weight.