This is what I get for switching from Ubuntu to mint and trying to use steam.

  • @TrickDacy
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    -214 hours ago

    How is it not 2fa if it involves any method besides your password? Your password is factor 1, something else is factor 2. That can be a number of things.

    • @Randelung
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      414 hours ago

      Reset password via email. Reset second factor via email. Email is the only factor, neither password nor the 2fa.

      Usually, the actual login is not the easiest target for an attacker, the recovery methods are. You call a helpline to get a second SIM for SMS codes. You guess (or dig up) answers to recovery questions if available. You get access to email accounts, e. g. via phishing.

      If a recovery path for a security factor is weak, it ceases to be a security factor. By allowing both password and the second factor to be recoverable via email, both factors collapse into one: get access to the email and you’re in.

    • @[email protected]
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      113 hours ago

      Like Randelung said, that would be true if you couldn’t reset you password via email. But as long as that’s possible the email can’t ever be the 2nd factor because it can be used to (re)set the 1st one.

      A safer definition of what the 2 factors should be is “something you know” and “something you own”. The “know” is usually a password (which you can remember, but you should use a password manager these days so you can have a different password for every service). The “own” is typically a phone these days (generating a timed code, for example). But it doesn’t have to be, it can be a physically USB dongle or your fingerprint. The idea is that it’s something that can’t be overheard, or recorded via key logger or or even told to someone.

      Steam does this better (as in safer) than most.