Modern cars have MASSIVE digital displays, loads of computers systems monitoring every subsystem and internal diagnostics running to the OBDII ports.

Why the hell can’t we get diagnostic feeds on our console or infotainment center?

I’m not aware of any car manufacturers selling their own diagnostic ASICs, so it’s not an extra margin to squeeze afaik…

What gives? Any insight into this beyond the usual muh corporate profits conjecture?

  • @[email protected]
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    2 months ago

    The sad answer is that those displays exist to cut costs, not to make your ownership experience better.

    Also the dealers want you to come to them for that CEL, and the companies don’t want to piss off the dealers.

    • @saltesc
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      332 months ago

      They make the ownership experience worse. I fucking hate mine.

      I wish I could replace half of the real estate with buttons and.knobs but nooooo, I can’t afford a car with such fancy craftsmanship so it’s a cheap shitty screen with a cheap shitty OS instead. And everyone things it’s fancy…LOL

          • @[email protected]
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            22 months ago

            Nice! I’m glad other brands are still sane. Nissan is moving towards all-screen and I think that’s my cue to leave them.

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              22 months ago

              Iirc there was a push on manufacturers from the NHTSA to return to physical controls for things like HVAC and media due to safety concerns, but I don’t know how official that was.

    • @Botzo
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      122 months ago

      Just to throw this out there, but car dealership owners are close to the scummiest people on the planet.

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      12 months ago

      Why don’t the companies want to piss off the dealers? Is some Toyota dealership really gonna stop selling Toyotas because a Toyota comes out with a self-diagnosis feature?

      • @slumberlust
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        22 months ago

        Dealerships do a lot of absorption of supply and demand elasticity on behalf of the manufacturer. It’s a symbiotic relationship.