What is Grayjay?

Grayjay is a cutting-edge app that serves as a video player and source aggregator. It allows you to stream and organize videos from various sources, providing a unified platform for your entertainment needs.

It’s mostly used as a YouTube frontend^. However, it is now launching as a desktop app for Linux, Mac and Windows.

  • @ledix
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    -1912 hours ago

    It is open source, just not free open source

    • @[email protected]
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      3711 hours ago

      Typically licenses not OSI approved are referred to as “Source available” rather than “Open source”. This is one reason FUTO (who make Grayjay) refer to their license as “Source first” and not “Open Source” (though they did call it that for a while before clarifying and switching to the new term).

      • fmstrat
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        04 hours ago

        My take: OSI needs to include noncommercial licenses. Companies like Mongo and Redis have to end up creating their own licenses with GPL poison pills just to survive commercial use, why not create a system where companies that want to be, and support, an “open source” ecosystem can thrive?

        Open Source existed before OSI.

        • @airglow
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          Proprietary source-available software existed before open source software, and that’s what these restricted licenses are. The FOSS community does not appreciate businesses co-opting the term open source to promote software that doesn’t grant users the right to use the source code for any purpose.

      • @TootSweet
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        And by “clarifying” you mean “dunking on Open Source and parading around like the saviors of the human race for inventing Open-Source-except-with-donation-nags-to-fund-their-fully-for-profit-business.” Good job, guys, you’ve solved enshittification (/s).

        • @iopq
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          2010 hours ago

          One of the goals of source first licenses is to stop enshittification since it doesn’t allow paid clones

          Not saying I agree with their policy, but I would hope more for-profit businesses make their source code available

          • ZeroOne
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            14 hours ago

            This is basically Proprietary Licencing in a way

        • Lord Wiggle
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          59 hours ago

          But they do provide a good alternative for watching videos on multiple platforms without ads, without subscriptions or anything. And the app works if you don’t pay as well. Just because they ask money for their hard work while at the same time allowing the community to work with it sounds all good to me. It’s just not completely open source and completely free. But feel free to make a non-profit true open source counterpart if you like :)

        • @[email protected]
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          28 hours ago

          Haha yeah I do find the licence a bit weird. Kind of a non-commercial licence but there are definitely some parts that I don’t quite get.

          I have seen Eron Wolf talking a bit about what he is trying to do. I get his frustrations, but am not convinced their licence helps with those at all. You can’t really take open source, take away some freedoms that are sometimes taken advantage of, and pretend that removing those freedoms didn’t remove the benefits that are the reason those freedoms existed in the first place.

    • ZeroOne
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      28 hours ago

      It’s proprietary

      • fmstrat
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        No it’s not. SF license allows for noncommercial modification, and it is Source Available.

        • @airglow
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