• @gAlienLifeform
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    Yeah, Biden’s team never wanted to do any of this and never put any real effort into making it happen so now we’re hear. In any sane world this implosion (along with the FAFSA disaster and a million other things) would be the end of the conversation about why younger voters haven’t been supporting Dems at the rate we need, but I’m sure some jackass on MSNBC will say something fucking idiotic and insulting about misinformation on tiktok or something anyway.

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      Passed student debt relief. You: “He didn’t want to do it!!!”

      Blocked by court. You: “see he didn’t want to do it!!!”

      Passes new bill. Continues to work on other ways to do it too. You: “see he never wanted to do it!! No real effort!!”

      Unbelievable.

      • @gAlienLifeform
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        -21 month ago

        Biden drug his feet as long as possible on doing anything then only made on single token the gesture because he knew the court would instantly undo it and then he could pretend he tried (a court he never supported reforming in any meaningful way, not coincidentally).

        If he actually gave a shit he could have ordered the debt discharged before courts had any opportunity to involve themselves, or could have at least tried multiple different orders (like how Trump was willing to do with his travel bans), but the fact is Biden never actually wanted to deal with student debt because he worked most of his career to build this system and thinks it’s a good way to keep young people from getting too uppity.

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          ordered the debt discharged before courts had any opportunity to involve themselves

          That you think that’s how it works really shows me who I’m talking with. You have no idea how it works.

      • goferking (he/him)
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        -51 month ago

        Biden does weakest method to do debt relief, then ignores it once courts block it

        see he wanted to! - - dems not understanding why people don’t want more right wing dems in the party

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          He literally wrote new bills to get around the court block. Several afaik, at least one went through and some like above he won’t finish in time.

          • goferking (he/him)
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            -41 month ago

            Not really but keep saying that.

            He was also more than happy to start payments back up as a compromise with gop that also got nothing in return.

            But yeah he totally was doing it

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                  What are you even saying? Do you mean that as two sentences?

                  Iirc the problem the court found was the relief was too broad, they said it had to be based on more individual criteria. So he worked on more bills doing exactly that. So it’s not “following the [same] law”.

                  I think I’m out, you are willfully ignoring things just to say but but but but but but but Biden bad.

                  • goferking (he/him)
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                    -11 month ago

                    The debts he’s actually discharged are from laws that have been on the books for years.

                    Again he’s done any of the stronger methods since only trying the heros act powers.

                    I think I’m out, you are willfully ignoring things just to say but but but but but but but Biden bad.

                    Amazing how that’s always the response when shit like this is pointed out.

        • @gAlienLifeform
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          -21 month ago

          Yeah, what’s really frustrating is that I’m sure a lot of Biden supporters honestly understand how much of a complete and total failure his administration was (because like how could you not), but they will gaslight insult and alienate everyone and let the whole fucking country burn to the ground before they ever once admit it

          • goferking (he/him)
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            -31 month ago

            Well yeah if you did it before the election (hell even before the primary) you were just a dirty trump supporter. Then it was you couldn’t do it because it would hurt Kamala even though the entire point she replaced him was because of how poorly he was doing.