• @enbyecho
    link
    English
    45 hours ago

    Careful kids, the thought police are out in force today. Don’t say anything that might be deemed offensive by <some group I’m not part of> at some point in history!

    • @UnderpantsWeevil
      link
      English
      215 minutes ago

      Don’t say anything that might be deemed offensive

      Haha. Sex between men is a power dynamic. Teehee. Real intimacy is unattainable between male lovers. Giggle. Pleasure from anal sex is shameful.

    • @andros_rex
      link
      English
      61 hour ago

      I think it’s reasonable to ask why bottoming is presented as inherently degrading/submissive. (Same with giving oral - the insult “cocksucker.”) The vast majority of gay men I know are mostly verse anyway, the distinction of top and bottom to some extent seems like a carryover from heterosexual culture.

      Like yes, it’s just a meme, but it’s revealing of larger problematic attitudes. I’ve made the same kinds of jokes too, but there would be nothing worse about Trump were he to receive anal sex from Musk (as unpleasant as that image is.)

      • @enbyecho
        link
        English
        138 minutes ago

        I think it’s reasonable to ask why bottoming is presented as inherently degrading/submissive.

        Yes, it is. But it’s up to the bottom to decide how they wish to be represented. Not for some self-appointed language police on the internet to decide for them. Among people I know there is a wide variety of attitudes about this but it’s absolutely universal that top/bottom/switch (or verse as you say) is indeed a power dynamic (that’s kinda the point for many) but only in that moment. It’s not a reflection of inferiority or weakness and it’s funny to me that people would think that. Makes me think they haven’t ever been involved in any type of BDSM activities.

        Like yes, it’s just a meme, but it’s revealing of larger problematic attitudes.

        Who gets to decide what attitudes are “problematic”?

        • @andros_rex
          link
          English
          331 minutes ago

          I spent almost a decade of my life in TPE. Please do not lecture me about BDSM.

          The acts themselves are not inherently submissive, and most kinksters I knew were uncomfortable with that suggestion.

          I am deciding to express my discomfort with the terminology - that’s a decision I can make. I am a bottom, and submissive even! But I could also present the activity as dominant - in that I am lying back and expecting someone to provide me with pleasure. I have even “topped” individuals in a submissive way.

          The meme is clearly presenting receptive anal sex as inherently degrading, which is a common narrative.

      • @enbyecho
        link
        English
        14 hours ago

        Don’t be sad. Think of it as a performance. We don’t get to clap at the end because in some communities that’s considered offensive, but I have heard there will be cake.

        • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
          link
          English
          23 hours ago

          Dude, people just pointed out that what was said could be offensive, and you went full snowflake. Chill out.

          • @enbyecho
            link
            English
            22 hours ago

            No. I went full “hey, here’s why I don’t think that’s offensive” and THEY went full snowflake.