• @jordanlund
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    1052 days ago

    He’s only 26, which means the 2036 election suddenly gets more interesting.

    • @daddy32
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      417 hours ago

      trump promised he will “fix the elections”, so no more voting will be needed.

    • @[email protected]
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      552 days ago

      That’s assuming they don’t make the death-penalty terrorism charge stick… which they will in a heartbeat.

        • @[email protected]
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          13 hours ago

          I haven’t heard about it at all. Not a once. I would never talk about it during a jury selection process either.

        • @FooBarrington
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          322 hours ago

          I don’t see them letting it come to that. They’ll pick jury members of which they are 100% sure they won’t do jury nullification.

          Remember, the whole system is behind getting him charged.

            • @FooBarrington
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              118 hours ago

              Do you really think there’s no way for the combined power of the state & capital to influence jury selection? That feels like a very naive take.

              • @[email protected]
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                016 hours ago

                The defense has the right to pick half the jury - and defense lawyers are usually very serious about defending their clients and getting the best possible outcome. They’re going to pick the most favorable jurists they can.

                IMO he got over charged and they state is gonna learn the hard way that their strategy of making an example of him will backfire.

                • @FooBarrington
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                  115 hours ago

                  Please see my reply to the other comment - you’re assuming the pool of jurors contains enough people that would consider nullification. As far as I’m aware, the defense has no influence on this pool itself. So how do you know that the jurors the defense can choose from are actually randomly selected?

                  It’s pretty much a given that the state knows your opinion on jury nullification if you’ve ever publicly posted about it. Hell, based on the Snowden leaks there’s a good chance they know it if you’ve ever mentioned it over e.g. the telephone. How can you be sure that this knowledge isn’t used to bias the jury pool?

                  • @[email protected]
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                    013 hours ago

                    I saw your other comment after I made this one. You bring up valid points. I think we should throw the whole country out and start over personally.

                • @FooBarrington
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                  018 hours ago

                  No, I think I understand it well enough to also understand that the system isn’t perfect.

                  For example, the same system that is trying to get him charged is also responsible for producing the jury pool. Coincidentally, the same system regularly buys data about its citizens from big tech companies, like social media. The same social media on which plenty of people publicly commented on the case.

                  Unless the defense is literally involved in every step of the process (starting from voter registration), there’s no way to be sure that the jury pool is actually unbiased.

                  Now, hopefully I’m wrong about this, and you can show me specifically how we can be absolutely sure that the jury pool is completely unbiased. But I don’t think that you’ll be able to do so without implicitly relying on the same system that is being defended against.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    014 hours ago

                    None of these systems interact in an easy enough way to rig this without involving soo many people. Which means it won’t be secret enough to get away with.

          • @[email protected]
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            219 hours ago

            The minions of the wealthy hate anything that impedes them from executing the will of their masters.