• @[email protected]
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    12 days ago

    Wonder where they get cheap H2 or if it’s being subsidized somehow? It’s like $36/kg here!

    • @Maalus
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      12 days ago

      We have a private fuel station that does hydrogen, and the busses have two backup solutions. One that is able to fuel it to 100%, and the other they call “flyby” (?) which does 50% max. They get it hauled to the station using “hydrogen carriers” which each can get up to one tonne of hydrogen to the station. Apparently the station itself is electrically self sustaining from solar panels too.

      The current cost for personal vehicles is 69 pln (heh) per kg. They say that personal vehicles can refuel in 4 mins for a 650km range. For busses, they paid 56 pln per kg from October 23’ to May 24’ (that’s when the article I’m looking at aggregated the data). In total they paid 1.3 million pln, for twenty busses Now that I read it, 69pln is gross, 56pln is net, so they pay the same as the public. They project ~50k pln each bus will save over the next three years compared to diesels.

      Apparently, they got subsidies / EU funding to buy em. 65% of the value. Now they are buying more and they’re getting it 100% refunded - they’re only paying the tax, totalling 800k PLN, which is a steal. The busses themselves are modern as fuck too, passengers love em and so do drivers. Shit like side mirrors is a thing of the past, they get cameras now. They went through winter like a boss - no issues with them being susceptible to frost / freezing temps (remember, Poland is about as high up in latitude as Canada). Apparently it is sneaky enough to sneak up on motherfuckers, they have speakers mounted to simulate a car going 40km/h so pedestrians don’t get run over by it (since they’re basically an electric vehicle with a small powerplant on top).