• @finitebanjo
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    -282 days ago

    Sure, ASUS is real bad for doing this, but Windows 11 users kind of have it coming to them.

    • thermal_shock
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      92 days ago

      don’t blame the victim for owning a computer.

      • @finitebanjo
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        We blame dog owners when their dog mauls them.

        But yes, I meant it when I said ASUS was bad for doing this.

    • @JustARegularNerd
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      132 days ago

      This might be an unpopular take here on Lemmy but macOS, Linux or Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC IoT 2021 aren’t for everyone… Hell, I wouldn’t expect typical users to even know how to reinstall their operating system at all.

      • GHiLA
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        That’s kinda on the list of things that aren’t my problem.

        I hate to be that blunt, but seriously. It’s 2024. If you want fairness, you’re making it yourself. We’re in the cyberpunk dystopia. Learn Linux or, send Microsoft a few disapproving letters and hope.

        If Windows is a part of your job, at least write off any expense on your taxes so you don’t pay for the pain.

        Is it right? No. Everyone should have fair and equal software that is as useful as my tinkering makes mine, but life ain’t fair.

        • @Rooty
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          We’re in the cyberpunk dystopia.

          “Chipping in” intensifies

      • @finitebanjo
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        12 days ago

        I just can’t bring myself to believe that Windows 11 is or ever will be right for somebody. It’s going to cause more frustration to use it than to figure out an alternative.

        • thermal_shock
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          fortunately you don’t get decide what’s best for everyone. you do you, not everyone else. don’t be a dick here.

          • @finitebanjo
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            12 days ago

            What are you even saying, you want me to preface comments with “Opinion Article” ?

            • thermal_shock
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              22 days ago

              I’m saying you don’t get to dictate what people use. you can share your opinion, but you don’t have to be an ass.

              • @finitebanjo
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                -12 days ago

                Womp womp, I guess, you just have to live with the fact that my comments exist.

        • @[email protected]
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          It is almost the same as Windows 8 underneath. W11 for almost everyone should feel just like a new skin with couple more features. There are some annoyances, but I have not seen anything yet that I would consider dealbreaking.

          • @finitebanjo
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            62 days ago

            They put ads in the startmenu and take “snapshots” of your machine every few seconds to train AI to replace office workers.

            • @[email protected]
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              At least on Pro / Enterprise / Education edition there are no ads. Maybe I have disabled them, no idea. It could be that this is a thing in Home edition that cannot be easily disabled, have never used Home edition in my life to be honest.

              Recall is an optional feature that will run on specific CPUs and it will be local unless something recently changed. Would I use it even if I could? No, I don’t see a need, but it probably will be useful to many.

    • @pivot_root
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      The feature that allows manufacturers to push software onto clean installs has existed since Windows 8. If you’re advertising for Windows 10, you might want to try again.

      • @finitebanjo
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        According to the article, this particular issue is only on Windows 11. Sure, they COULD push to other OS, but they’re currently pushing it only on Windows 11. One temporary workaround for this particular problem is to not use Windows 11.

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          As of last year, they were doing it with Windows 10. Either they stopped pushing it for Windows 10, or the article just doesn’t bother listing the older Windows version. If you’re willing to believe a fellow Lemmy user who said it hit them on Windows 10 this year, it’s probably the latter.

          They also auto-install their malware software update delivery software automatically on both Windows 10 and 11.

          If you are a new user of a ROG, ROG Strix, TUF Gaming or Prime motherboard and using Windows 10 (Creators Update/ 1903 or later) or Windows 11, you will see a pop-up dialog that invites you to install Armoury Crate during the initial boot of your PC. To install, simply click ‘OK’ and the software will be automatically downloaded and installed.

          There’s plenty of reasons to hate Windows 11, but this Christmas banner debacle isn’t one of them unless you’re also willing to concede that Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 are also all garbage for including the same mechanism which allows vendors to provide run-on-boot executables that bypass clean reinstalls.

          For what it’s worth mentioning, I’m in the camp where any operating system that allows system integrators to automatically inject their own shitty software into a fresh install of the operating system without my consent is bad.

          • smokebuddy [he/him]
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            224 hours ago

            I got it this year on Windows 10, I only realized it was ASUS because it also changed the RGB theme of my ROG Keyboard. Was annoying and confusing but I didn’t assume malware, just stupidity.