• bluGill
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    82 days ago

    But those are cheap parts or last a long time. Soeagain wonky. Sure there is less but those are rareor cheap andeso the argument isn’t convincing.

    • Nougat
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      132 days ago

      Over the life of the vehicle, all of that adds up, especially if you’re taking your car to a shop, like most people do. On the other hand, tires on EVs wear a lot faster, due to their much greater weight compared to a similarly sized ICE car.

      • bluGill
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        82 days ago

        While it adds up I’ve had many vehicles and typically keep them for 10+ years and the vast majority of my maintenance costs have been things common with evs. Shocks, steering systems, ac - those things all add up and your ev has them too-

        • Nougat
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          32 days ago

          … Which makes those irrelevant when considering the differences between ICE and EV cost of ownership.

          • bluGill
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            52 days ago

            sure, but the difference isn’t maitenance. yet everyone keeps talking like engines are still the unreliable messes they were 50 years ago.

            if you want to talk about costs talk about the real difference: fuel cost which are much less. Fuel is also the largest expense after the initial purchase price. I would make most of a car payment just on that difference (and the car is due to be body rust). finding an ev that would replace my ninivan is hard (id.buzi is the only choice and that just came out - I haven’t verified it meets the other requirements though)

            • Nougat
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              32 days ago

              The article posted is about maintenance costs.

              An oil change anymore costs at least $50. Alternators fail. Fuel pumps fail. Spark plugs wear, less than they used to, but still. Ignition coils fail. Valve cover gaskets leak. Intake and exhaust manifolds leak (or break themselves). Oil pan gaskets leak. Exhaust rusts. Catalytic converters get stolen. Accessory belts wear out. Timing belts wear out. Air and fuel filters get clogged. There are many more sensors and solenoids in an ICE drivetrain than in an EV.

              Yes, the difference in fuel cost is primary and substantial. Again, the article posted is about maintenance/repair costs, and there’s simply not as many things in an EV to fail, or most importantly leak.

              • @SupraMario
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                Batteries need to be replaced…and they’re 10-20k…soooo…yea.

                • Nougat
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                  52 days ago

                  Recent EV batteries function fine to at least 200K miles.

                  • @SupraMario
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                    Gas motors don’t need to be replaced at 200k miles.