• @SupraMario
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    62 days ago

    Gas motors don’t need to be replaced at 200k miles.

    • Nougat
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      42 days ago

      Only if you keep up with all of their maintenance religiously for that time. Maybe.

      • @SupraMario
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        22 days ago

        I mean…that goes for electric cars as well. The mass majority of gas cars do 200k miles easily. I have multiple cars and trucks with 250k+ miles.

        • Nougat
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          22 days ago

          What kind of regular maintenance does an EV motor and battery require? Coolant change at 150K miles or 15 years? Edit: Coolant change at 120K then ~24K after that, so four coolant changes.

          ICE would need:

          Coolant (many times) Oil (many many times) Oil filter (many many times) Timing belt or chain (at least once, possibly twice) Timing belt tensioner (at least once, possibly twice) Timing belt idler pulley (at least once) Water pump (probably) Various oil seals and gaskets Spark plugs (twice) Ignition coils (probably) Serp belt (likely three or four times) Serp belt tensioner (at least once)

          Edit, more:

          Battery (at least twice) Alternator (probably) Fuel pump (probably) Fuel filter (more than once) Injectors (possibly replace, definitely clean)

          • @SupraMario
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            21 day ago

            What kind of regular maintenance does an EV motor and battery require? Coolant change at 150K miles or 15 years? Edit: Coolant change at 120K then ~24K after that, so four coolant changes.

            The motor? Not much. Rest of the car still needs maintenance, brakes, brake fluid, making sure that parts that require grease are greased, tires(way more often than ICE) and don’t use fast chargers or fill your battery to full constantly, also don’t drive or live in extreme weather conditions… basically 90s is extreme and 10* is extreme. These conditions lower the battery life itself.

            Coolant (many times)

            Huh? Have you ever owned an ICE vehicle? Coolant doesn’t need to be changed but maybe once in 200k miles when you change the water pump.

            Oil (many many times) Oil filter (many many times)

            Older cars do 6-8k miles per change. New ICE cars can do 30k+ so it’s like 7 times for new cars.

            Timing belt or chain (at least once, possibly twice)

            If its a chain then no.

            Timing belt tensioner (at least once, possibly twice) Timing belt idler pulley (at least once)

            You’re just listing off the same job here. You don’t change this stuff by itself, its part of a TB job.

            Water pump (probably)

            Same here, pretty much all cars now have the TB running the WP. So you just change it during the TB change.

            Various oil seals and gaskets

            Uhh? Which are what? I have 300k miles on my 22 year old landcruiser… valve cover gaskets I’ve done once… everything else is still the original stuff.

            Spark plugs (twice)

            Sure

            Ignition coils (probably)

            Part of the spark plug job.

            Serp belt (likely three or four times)

            No. Once.

            Serp belt tensioner (at least once)

            Same job.

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            Battery (at least twice)

            Maybe, depends on how shit the battery is.

            Alternator (probably)

            Nope

            Fuel pump (probably)

            Not a chance.

            Fuel filter (more than once)

            Once if that, most don’t need to. Gas is heavily refined and most people aren’t putting dirt into their tanks

            Injectors (possibly replace, definitely clean)

            Nope, most injectors will do 200k easily.

            • Nougat
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              -11 day ago

              There are zero ice cars that have 30K oil change intervals. If you’re changing oil every 30K miles, there is no way your engine is making it to 200K.

              • @SupraMario
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                21 day ago

                Huh? There are a bunch of manufacturers now that have motors that do 10-15k, 20-30k mile oil changes. The hell are you talking about. The myth of the 3k mile oil change was created by the quick lube places to get money. I do my changes on a 22 year old car every 8k miles, new motors have way tighter tolerances and do way better on oil than older motors.

                  • @SupraMario
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                    11 day ago

                    BMW has a good number, hell Toyota rav4, mini Coopers, mercs. You’re behind the times if you think this is not true. Full synthetic oils and tighter tolerances in motors have gotten motors to this point. It’s not 1953 where the motors consume oil and topping them up during fueling is a thing.