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    This just seems like a staunch refusal to listen to anything that doesn’t reflect your tribalistic beliefs. You keep attempting to write these people off as not worthy of “our” time because you suspect they’re part of the “out group” and racists which is why they voted for Trump.

    The world isn’t that simple and you’re only causing division and a loss of support with puritanical beliefs such as this and the fact that you bring up “total number of visits to Wayne County Michigan” as a metric for how well each candidate connected with Muslims in America shows that you’re on no sort of moral highground as you’re boiling down a whole diverse population of people into a simple geographical statistic. This is dehumanizing and evokes other mildly racist, out-of-touch behaviors from the campaign such as: In outreach to Black men, Harris to vow to legalize weed, protect crypto

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      All voters are worthy of our time. But Trump’s victory demonstrates that the American electorate, and Palestinian-Americans in particular, have moved further to the right since 2020. To the point that the staunchest supporter of Israel can win most demographics.

      Democrats will have to grapple with this when formulating new policies. The only “tribalism” comes those who look at 2024 and imagine voters moved to the left.

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      As for Wayne County, I was responding to “Trump interacted a lot more with Arab voters”. There is no evidence of that.

      Wayne County visits are admittedly an imperfect metric of interaction, so if you have some better comparative metric then I’d love to see it.

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        I disagree that the electorate moved to the right in 2024. Trump got almost the same number of votes as he did in 2020 while Harris lost something like 10 million votes because she spent more time trying to court the right than caring about anyone left of “moderate” Republicans. Certain demographics may have shifted slightly but again the totals speak for themselves and it could just as easily be her pushing people away than Trump attracting them.

        The DNC itself has been moving further and further right and it keeps costing them elections because the people that they’re supposed to represent are sick and tired of being ignored in favor of the powerful and wealthy, yet they refuse to do anything about it even though they can see the result of this strategy over and over again just like the rest of us.

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          because she spent more time trying to court the right

          There is no evidence that this is the reason she lost voters.

          But there is evidence that a significant number of Biden 2020 voters switched to Trump this year. That’s the definition of a shift to the right.