For the record I was posting in support of inclusive language, but pointing out that context and convention matter.

They seem to have even scrubbed my comment from their instance, lol.

  • @[email protected]
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    152 days ago

    Oh that place is an interesting idea but poor execution.

    Last I knew they would ban you if you got banned from any of the news comms or had too many controversial comments. Which just boiled down to downvotes

    • Draconic NEO
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      I remember the creator of the bot that does the bans insisted until he was blue in the fact that it doesn’t ban based on downvotes while spewing a lot f technobabble that ultimately ammounted to banning for downvotes. So yeah, he’s trying to bring back one of the worse features of Reddit, that being an ass kissing requirement, that’s what karma requirements are, they are an ass kissing requirement, because the way you get karma points is by kissing ass, the way you lose them is by sharing new or different ideas. See the issue with them? The system punishes people for having ideas that other people don’t like, not that are wrong or evil, but that other people simply don’t like. That’s not even mentioning people who cheat the system by doing vote manipulation to their own comments or to other comments.

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        22 days ago

        I understand the reddit karma requirements, having seen too many small subs get swarmed by x day old but no or only negative karama but yeah that creator didn’t seem to want anything polite, just acceptable to status quo thinking

        • Draconic NEO
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          61 day ago

          Karma requirements only punish people who have different thoughts and opinions and who are honest enough to not cheat by using bots or upvoting their own comments with alts. It’s not a good solution, it punishes people who are honest and don’t commit vote manipulation. It’s why the Lemmy Devs removed score from the API, it’s still possible to get it but it’s harder, and more effort since you have to get it from each comment and post and add them up.

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      Hmm, well, I wasn’t banned from anything before that, and none of my comments had been highly downvoted. I had gotten in a few people’s faces over genocide denial, though. I assumed it was because of that.

      Funny enough, I just double-checked, and it looks like I’ve recently been banned from a bunch of Dubvee communities, too. I’ve never heard of this instance before, but based on this post, I’m guessing they didn’t like my thoughts on United Healthcare. Again, I wasn’t even aware of Dubvee until now, so I can’t say it feels like much of a loss.

        • @michaelmrose
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          31 day ago

          From the linked description:

          More accurately, the Lemmy community is surprisingly tolerant of a wide range of opinions

          No, no they aren’t. Communities have general set of opinions and they will often downvote you having the wrong one even if its as trivial as preferring the “wrong” team in a sporting event.

          Q: Why doesn’t the bot notify for bans?

          There are a few users who get banned or unbanned very day, as the pattern of user comments and votes changes over time. It’s important that bans be “lightweight,” and always reversible for anyone who is banned.

          If I was randomly unbanned without being actually transgressive and I never knew when I could post I would very very shortly stop engaging with a community.

          Q: Won’t people learn to fake upvotes for themselves and trick the bot?

          It’s worse most comments most places will have near zero engagement. Threads are full of stuff only a few people upvoted it would be easy to use this system to harass and silence people. Hell People look at karma as the communities judgement and are actually more likely to downvote less likely to upvote if an innocuous comment is shortly reduced to -1

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          -11 day ago

          Is there a lemmy instance that isn’t basically trash?