Just to compare, this is the utopian dream for Toronto:

There are approx. 18 cars and trucks in that image.

They are taking up SIGNIFICANTLY more space, and are causing traffic.

Still, we keep saying, “give us more of this, please!”.

Insanity or stupidity?

  • @[email protected]OP
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    213 days ago

    Amsterdam is 59,324 times smaller than the US

    I would hope so. It’s a city, after all! It’s nearly twice the size of Miami, and Miami is desperately car dependant.

    and it’s average temperature is always above freezing.

    Miami’s is, too. Much warmer. Almost like you can comfortably walk or bike everywhere if cars didn’t dominate the landscape.

    Someone there will never need to drive 100 miles in a snow storm.

    Out of curiosity, is it normal for 300 million people to be driving 100 miles in a snow storm all the time? If not, what’s the point of bringing that up? The most populated states have beautiful weather nearly all year, so why choose to be stuck in a metal box?

    Most Canadian and US cities who refuse to let go of car dependency look like the photo of Toronto, or worse. Those drivers aren’t driving 100 miles in snow, they are statistically driving < 5 miles at a time.

    FWIW, I was able to run errands by bike in this kind of weather just the other day:

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      The only true counter to all of that is Amsterdam was basically go-engineered to be pretty much flat. Most cities in the US have a lot more elevation change than that, making bikes a bit less practical.

      • @[email protected]OP
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        32 days ago

        To counter that, we’re also talking about the difference of people riding single speed bikes vs bikes with gears and ebikes. The latter of which pretty much deals with hills. 😄

        I have some pretty wild elevation changes around me, but even hauling groceries, this is rarely an issue. Of course, as I got used to cycling, it got much easier, so just getting out of the car is where most people will find the greatest difficulty.

        • @FireRetardant
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          I walk up and over a hill to get my grocceries. It is literally uphill both ways but I still prefer to walk instead of driving my car because the walk is just so much more enjoyable and only about 15 minutes one way. Even in the winter the walk is nice, the hill actually helps me stay warm.

    • @ChonkyOwlbear
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      FWIW, I was able to run errands by bike in this kind of weather just the other day:

      Congrats on not being disabled. Not everyone is.

      • @[email protected]OP
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        11 day ago

        I’m missing an internal organ due to illness. My health improved tremendously after I took up cycling.

        I recently watched a interview where this dude with one leg biked a fixie up a mountain… while doing the interview!

        Cycling, including on an e-bike, fat tire bike, trike, or recumbent, can be highly accessible when divers arent trying to kill you.

        And if a disability prevents someone from cycling, they are safer out in public when fewer people are driving.